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1P_MattG
1Password Employee
October 16, 2023
Question

Experiment #3 - Nearby Items

  • October 16, 2023
  • 88 replies
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Hi y'all!

I can't believe we are already shipping Experiment 3?! This one has a very special place in my heart. This project actually came out of a Hackday we did internally. Everyone was SOOOO excited about it, we wanted to share it with our users to get your feedback.

Nearby Items allows you to assign a location to an item. Then, on mobile only for now, we've added a section to the home tab that shows you items that are close to you physically. Pretty awesome, right?

The basic hypothesis here is that because people are more and more mobile, the items you need quick access to might be different based on where you are in the world. If your building at work has a door code, we'll show you that when you pull up. If you've got a storage shed, we'll show you the combo to the lock when you arrive.

This experiment is our first exploration into physical space. We know we're not "done" but wanted to get early feedback to help shape how this project evolves from here.

We're eager to hear your thoughts on Nearby Items. Let us know what you think below in this thread.

The primary questions I'm trying to answer are:

  1. Does adding a location to an item help you get things done faster and with less friction? Do you see value in continuing to explore physical locations for items in any form?

  2. What are the use cases where you think having an item's physical location would be valuable? We have some ideas, but I'm sure there are tons of things we aren't even thinking about.

  3. This is a v1. If we continue to work on Nearby Items, what should we add, change, or modify to make it more valuable to you as a user?

  4. Does it make sense to also show "nearby items" on Desktop computers?

  5. Do you think that the current form of Nearby Items is good enough to ship in the Stable product?

88 replies

dmacx
December 15, 2023

I think, favorites are for that specific use case if I'm not home.

December 15, 2023

Yeah, favourites sort of work for that. But when I'm at home at my laptop I usually need other favourites than while I'm outside.

It's not a desperately needed feature. It just came to my mind thinking about items I need vs. Items I don't need depending on the location I am at.

Doodler_Benji
1Password Employee
December 17, 2023

Thanks a lot for the great feedback/ideas @joernarne.

This is one of those moments where I'm so grateful we've got folks like your good self sharing ideas that we probably wouldn't have thought of as this goes in the opposite direction to how and where the team were thinking items should show up.

That said, it sounds like you kind of want 1Password to have a bit more location awareness in general. Your feedback's giving me some interesting ideas that I'm excited to explore more with the team.

Cheers again Joe!

XIII
December 17, 2023

I’d like to assign names to locations, which could then be displayed instead of coordinates (when editing an item).

Examples of names: “Home”, “Work”, “School”, “Gym”, etc.

XIII
December 18, 2023

I want that even more now that I see that all items at the same location have random distances in 1Password.

I have added six items at home, but they are listed as 3, 5, 6, 7, 10 and 12m away…

Doodler_Benji
1Password Employee
December 18, 2023

@XIII Thank you! Naming locations is high on our own list for this feature, it was likely the first thing I was bugging our ever-so-talented devs for when they were working up proof of concepts of adding locations to items.

Regarding the mismatch of distances, I'll double check but I think this may due to GPS having an at best 5m radius(?) of accuracy, rather than a pin-point accuracy and you'll get a bit of a 'estimation' to the location.

1P_MattG
1P_MattGAuthor
1Password Employee
December 22, 2023

Thanks for all the feedback so far. This is super helpful. I'm still really interested in hearing more use cases where location aware items would be useful.

December 23, 2023

I think it’d be useful if we could add common locations to our profile/settings (home, work, gym, supermarket, vet, doctor, etc) so we can quickly assign saved locations to any item (or select multiple items and add a location). I think it’d be useful to be able to add multiple locations, e.g. supermarkets, second office location, etc.

Favourite locations should have a geofence of say 25-50m so we don’t get the issue of having nearby items 1, 3, 5, etc metres away - they would all fall into the one location even if the coordinates are slightly different. I don’t think we need pinpoint accuracy for this sort of thing. That sort of range would cover most small to medium building footprints.

Other non-favourite locations may not need a geofence, but I wouldn’t think it be such an issue at places less frequently visited.

Interesting that when I search for place names or addresses, their electoral ward and district shows up rather than the actual street address.

December 27, 2023

This is a very interesting feature. Here are a few suggestions:

  • The ability to assign multiple locations to a given item.
  • A way to easily pick current location (doesn't seem feasible on Android).
  • Being able to set the radius per item and not app-wide: I would like to have my university account visible on the whole campus, while my home Wifi password is only relevant when I'm close to my router.
  • To have the nearby items menu automatically retracted when there's no nearby item and unfolded otherwise.

Thanks!

1P_MattG
1P_MattGAuthor
1Password Employee
December 28, 2023

This is great feedback. I hadn't thought about setting a radius per item. That's an interesting one and I can see the value. I also like the idea of hiding the nearby items menu if there's nothing to show. Do you see this as hiding the menu completely? That would remove the ability to change the search radius.