Experiment #3 - Nearby Items

@Doodler_Benji 🙏🙌

is there another term that has been resonating with you for a collective of mixed items within your 1Password? This is certainly something that now you've mentioned has got me wondering if others may have been thinking and its worth exploring.

Back when 1PW was just passwords, I would call them passwords 😅 but as capabilities expanded I switched to intentionally using phrases like “click the plus and select ‘Login’” instead of “create a new password” – but once “entered” they became an “entry” in my mind, like in a journal or logbook, each new entry was a quantum wrapper for interacting with whatever it was pointed towards.

The 1PW apps are quite clear and consistent about entries being “Items” everywhere: sheets, help texts, labels, buttons, navs, etc… but in the “real world” outside of the 1PW app an “Item” in my Apple world mind already means a physical item (like a backpack, bike, pet, computer, keys, onewheel, etc…)

And that consistency is why I love & use 1PW. It reduces cognitive load which I think is a critical aspect of making the world secure by default.

I can’t imagine y’all renaming “Items” everywhere internally. What a chore. Not just apps, but docs history & screenshots & stuff too. And potentially confuses the folks who either do not care, didn’t notice, or like/prefer “Item” and won’t like that it changed to “Entry.”

The only thing I’d experiment with internally, if I were on the 1PW engineering team, is to remove “Item” entirely and not refer to the collective as anything, instead opting to use more descriptive language or omitting labels entirely (like below the very bottom toolbar nav icons) and then only-ever falling back to “Entry” as a last resort – but still consistently – and kaboshing “Item” from the company lexicon 😅

And to be fair about it, I can see how “Entry” isn’t perfect either, because it unintentionally flips the emphasis away from ThE tHiNg back inwards towards 1Password’s own things.

(Also, my apologies for the minor thread hi-jack 😜)

@johnjamesjacoby Thanks for the follow-up, no apology needed for the additional context. I like to absorb and gather as much understanding as I can to grow an inclusive mindset. While I don't foresee us making changes to item(s) anytime soon as you've mentioned, I do like how you're pushing us with this thought challenge. It's these moments that help us craft a more meaningful and richer calibre of output.

Cheers!

Great feature - it please allow for multiple locations.

Kind of annoying that every time I close 1Password in macOS, it opens Apple Maps (for no apparent reason), which I than have to close. I have Nearby Places enabled for one item in 1Password.

Hey @LarryMcJ, this doesn't sound right at all. Thanks for letting us know, we're discussing it now and will be back in touch!

Well, whatever it was, it fixed itself. I haven't changed anything in 1Password, but I just noticed it's now working as expected. The only thing that did change was the 1P Safari extension update two days ago, if it might be somehow linked.

Very peculiar - we were not able to replicate it yet, so if it does reoccur please let us know.
Glad all is behaving as intended again, cheers Larry!

Interesting feature! Could you please explain the privacy approach of this feature? For example, is my location only processed on-device or is my location history sent to 1p?

Thanks!

Hi @pleaseopensource1p 👋

We've built this feature in a way that maximizes your control over your location data.

1. For those looking for maximum privacy, they don't have to give 1Password permission to use their location. They can still add locations to their items (by entering in the latitude/longitude) and they can use (for example) Open in Maps if they want to see that location in using an external mapping service.
2. For those comfortable giving 1Password permission to use their location, they'll be able to make use of showing Nearby Items (items physically close to you). Your location is only used to compute distances between you and your items and isn't saved or logged, and it doesn't leave your device.
3. For those comfortable with using a Mapping service, we will show your item on a map inside 1Password. Since this involves a non-1Password technology (e.g Apple's MapKit on iOS, Google Maps on Android) we make this opt-in so that you maintain full control over your item location data.

Hopefully this helps explain how we use your data (we worked really hard to give you the most control), please let us know if you have any more questions.

Thanks for the quick response! That is reassuring. Re #3, does this also happen on-device as far as 1password is concerned?