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Experiment #3 - Nearby Items

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October 16, 2023
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Hi y'all!

I can't believe we are already shipping Experiment 3?! This one has a very special place in my heart. This project actually came out of a Hackday we did internally. Everyone was SOOOO excited about it, we wanted to share it with our users to get your feedback.

Nearby Items allows you to assign a location to an item. Then, on mobile only for now, we've added a section to the home tab that shows you items that are close to you physically. Pretty awesome, right?

The basic hypothesis here is that because people are more and more mobile, the items you need quick access to might be different based on where you are in the world. If your building at work has a door code, we'll show you that when you pull up. If you've got a storage shed, we'll show you the combo to the lock when you arrive.

This experiment is our first exploration into physical space. We know we're not "done" but wanted to get early feedback to help shape how this project evolves from here.

We're eager to hear your thoughts on Nearby Items. Let us know what you think below in this thread.

The primary questions I'm trying to answer are:

Does adding a location to an item help you get things done faster and with less friction? Do you see value in continuing to explore physical locations for items in any form?
What are the use cases where you think having an item's physical location would be valuable? We have some ideas, but I'm sure there are tons of things we aren't even thinking about.
This is a v1. If we continue to work on Nearby Items, what should we add, change, or modify to make it more valuable to you as a user?
Does it make sense to also show "nearby items" on Desktop computers?
Do you think that the current form of Nearby Items is good enough to ship in the Stable product?

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Every time I enter a particular location that has an item associated with it, when I open 1Password (Android), I'm asked to enter my password. I have fingerprint auth set up, and it works right every other time, but for this one scenario.

Is it possible that geolocated passwords trigger manual login for some reason? It's annoying though that I've disabled location based passwords.

1Password Employee

Hi @jkane001,

This is very strange. It's probably a coincidence because the app can't decrypt your items (and hence read the location of your items) while locked. But we'll look into this a bit further and see if we can find any correlation.

We have been having issues with biometric unlock recently so it's possible that the issue is there and not with your physical location.

Thanks for letting us know 💙

I do get prompted to re-auth a lot (I've got it set to never require it), but always with fingerprint. It's only when approaching a location with items associated that the prompt is for the full password (and especially painful cause I'm in my car about to enter my storage facility)

1Password Employee

@jkane001 Good to know, thanks. We'll see if we can reproduce it. 💙

Happy to enable it again with any logging to help troubleshoot

1Password Employee

@jkane001 Thanks, do you by chance have a car with Android Auto? We've had some reports of that interfering with biometric unlock? If so, we're working on getting that sorted out.

I sure do - and I'm connected to it each time that happens, so that seems like it's related then.

1Password Employee

@jkane001 Good to know, thanks! We're on it 💙

I'm very excited to try this feature! I just enabled it. Want to echo the many people who asked for multiple locations. For instance, one main use case I want to try is saving my library card there. It has a barcode which I scan at a machine to check out books. That way I don't have to carry the actual plastic card or keychain tag. However, the library has many branches, several of which I use regularly.

Similar for my gym which has 2 locations - I know others mentioned that use case. For that one, since there are just 2, I duplicated the entry and put one location on each copy; that works okay because the gym doesn't have a password, it's just a barcode, but the library has a password (for the online catalog) and this doesn't scale well for many locations.

I'll follow up once I've had a chance to actually use it some more! Thank you 1Password team for doing this!

1Password Employee

@dbalpert Thanks for giving nearby items a try! The library card and gym locations feedback is definitely on par with what we're hearing and i'm grateful you've taken the time to come and let us know you're putting it through its paces!

It has a barcode which I scan at a machine to check out books.
Are you scanning this from 1Password? I wonder if you might benefit from a similar ability to our recent updates to have a QR for Wi-Fi, but in your case, displaying a membership QR/Barcode, or even image if its a unique barcode graphic.

Do keep us posted, excited to hear more!

PS. If you get a notification about me removing your comment it's because for some reason your comment showed up twice so I zapped the second one.

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