Feature request: Adding an optional additional PIN for the iPhone app with Face ID

Hello @mjudman! 👋

Thank you for the suggestion! Can you tell me a little more about the threat that you're trying to protect against? Face ID, by default, is very secure and 1Password adds additional protections to increase that security even further. You can read more here:

• About Face ID advanced technology - Apple Support
• About Face ID security in 1Password for iOS

I look forward to hearing from you.

-Dave

Well, I'm thinking of the scenario of some evil-doer unlocking my phone by simply holding it up to my face. I admit, an unlikely event in a mugging or whatever, since I'm not a famous person or someone with national secrets. Perhaps what has me feeling nervous is the ease with which Face ID works, giving potential access to the "family jewels." I know, perhaps silly.

@mjudman

Thanks for the reply. Even if someone was able to steal your iPhone and unlock the iPhone itself they would then need to find the 1Password app and unlock it separately. You can have 1Password lock more quickly to help protect against this threat: How to set 1Password to lock automatically

Once someone is willing to use force to get you to unlock your iPhone or 1Password there isn't much that 1Password can do to protect you. If someone is willing to use force to get you to unlock your iPhone or 1Password using Face ID then they'll likely be willing to use the same force to get you to give them your PIN.

That being said, I can see how requiring a PIN in addition to biometrics could give some folks more peace of mind. While I can't make any promises, I've filed a feature request on your behalf with our product team.

-Dave

ref: PB-38501878

Thanks for the reply Dave. I really couldn't ask for more, given that my request was more "peace of mind" as you say, than high probability risk-avoidance.

Thank you again for the feedback and idea. 🙂

-Dave

Can I second this suggestion? I still use the old 1Password app because it has a PIN

The government can get a warrant to use your face to unlock a device but cannot force you to give them a password or PIN. I don’t use FACEID on my phone at all.

The odds is one in a million chance to trick face I.D.
The odds is one in a fifty thousand to trick finger print.

However if you have a twin or a son or daughter that looks almost exactly like you then it is possible to trick face I.D.. anybody else not likely.

If you share face I.D. with someone else on the same device it lowers the odds slightly.
Still that would not prevent me from having the max two faces on the same device.

I too was nervous about face I.D. before I educated myself by reading. In public you do not want someone to see you type a password.

If you have time and know something is going to happen before it actually does either restart or even better turn your iPhone off and that increases the protection of the secure enclave of your iPhone.

@agogley

Thank you for the feedback! If you'd like, you can set 1Password 8 for iOS to unlock using your device passcode rather than using Face ID:

• Use your device passcode, PIN, or pattern to unlock 1Password

I hope that helps. 🙂

-Dave