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October 25, 2021
Question

Number of items not appearing next to items

  • October 25, 2021
  • 37 replies
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Hello 1Password, I just migrated from 1Password 7 to 8 Beta. So far it's great but I have a question. I am using the Windows 10 1Password app.

On my main page I always like seeing the number appearing next to the item, for example in the old system it would say ( this is just an example).

All items - 537
Logins - 499
Secure notes - 27
Documents - 11
Credit cards - 7

Is there a way for this to show? ( I would like to see all these again and the number of entries next to it).

Also, I am not ready to switch back to 1Password 7 yet as I am getting the feel of 1Password 8 Beta but is there a way to switch back if I decide to?


1Password Version: 8.4.0
Extension Version: 80400010
OS Version: W10
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37 replies

1P_Rob
1Password Employee
1Password Employee
May 3, 2022

Hey, @wagnerone. Thanks for the feedback. In case you missed it, there is an easier way to see the count without scrolling to the bottom of the list:

wagnerone
May 3, 2022

It's nice that it's at the bottom and at the top, but the one at the top requires more work to get to. Having it buried there is, I think, less useful to me than the exposed one at the bottom. Both reduce the usefulness compared the former style. Having it next to each sidebar item provided a quick means of globally scanning a list of sidebar items to get a quick idea of record breakdown. I could easily scan the list and, with tags of similar names, get an idea which one to drill down into based on the count.

1P_PeterG
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 3, 2022

Thank you, @wagnerone. We appreciate the continued feedback! 🙌

wagnerone
May 3, 2022

As a 1P Teams admin, I also used those sidebar counts as lightweight method of gaining quick insight into the use of vaults, tags, etc.

For example, I could easily do something like, "well, this vault I made the special request of so and so has 1 (or 0) item in it."

I can then ask if they really need it and possibly clean up our vault list.

Same for tags - if a project tag has very few items in it compared to another, similar project tag, I know something is amiss and some records probably weren't properly captured into 1P.

May 3, 2022

As a member of "Team Item Counts In the Sidebar" I will point out that I've yet to see anyone on this forum advocate for them not to be there. Except 1PW Devs. That's not to say I couldn't have missed other customers who expressed an opposing view. But if I did I certainly don't recall. And I'm all for an option to display or hide them. Just saying ....

1P_PeterG
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 4, 2022

Thank you, @wagnerone and @OAW. We do take your feedback into account!

ref: dev/core/core#9298

July 13, 2022

Hi,
is there any update as to what the response was from the dev team to our comment or request?

1Password Employee
July 13, 2022

As a member of "Team Item Counts In the Sidebar" I will point out that I've yet to see anyone on this forum advocate for them not to be there. Except 1PW Devs. That's not to say I couldn't have missed other customers who expressed an opposing view. But if I did I certainly don't recall. And I'm all for an option to display or hide them. Just saying ....

It isn't super often that people take the time to register for a forum and post feedback indicating that a feature they don't care about isn't present. People tend to speak up when things aren't working the way they want, not vice versa. 😃 I also don't see anyone posting on Apple's forum in support of the fact that Contacts.app doesn't have item counts in the sidebar. I'm not sure that is a meaningful metric, to be honest.

is there any update as to what the response was from the dev team to our comment or request?

There are no plans to add item counts to the sidebar at this time, however we're happy to continue to gather feedback and try to make a case.

Ben

July 13, 2022

Hi,
The issue here is that it was present in version 7, and removed in version 8, why or what was the reason to remove it?

The count is present at the bottom of the list of items, why not add it back to the categories and tags? Or if that is too difficult, instead of the bottom, show it on top of the list, that should not be all to complex for the devs. Just don't make us scroll down hundreds of entries to see the count.

You may not consider it a meaningful metric, but when you have several hundreds of items in categories and tagged, it is very relevant to those users. In my case, it (tagging) is part of my secops workflow.

Comparing it with the contacts app in IOS does not really make sense, they are completely different functionalities and the contact app does not have categories nor tags
But if you like to compare :
- talking about contacts apps ..... Google contacts (on most apps) has the count on top of the list, same for the Microsoft contacts panel = visible at first sight
- Lastpass (in most of their apps) has the count per group or category on top of the list in the main panel = visible at first sight

1P_PeterG
Community Manager
Community Manager
July 13, 2022

Hi @OLCE, thanks for this feedback. 👋

I can understand why you wouldn't want to scroll to the bottom of a large list if you have lots of items. If you click the downward-pointing arrow in the top-right corner of your item list, it will say "< # > items sorted by ". Is that helpful for your use case?

We're always interested in the details of how well the app design naturally aligns with your needs (or not), so we appreciate the chance to chat with you about it!