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June 1, 2022
Question

Where do you set the default vault for new items?

  • June 1, 2022
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Currently running the beta on Mac and all new items get added to the wrong vault, and I can't find where this setting lives. Any help would be appreciated.


1Password Version: 80800104, on BETA channel
Extension Version: Not Provided
OS Version: 12.5 beta

46 replies

snozdop
June 1, 2022

There isn't a setting to set a default vault to save into any longer. You choose which vault to save into when adding a new item using the vault selector next to the Save button.

Have a read through the thread below for discussion on and reasoning for this change:

https://1password.community/discussion/124089/lost-functionality-in-v8-set-default-vault-for-new-items

1P_PeterG
Community Manager
June 7, 2022

Hi @leefishermusic, thanks for the question. This does indeed work differently now - you choose a vault to save into. This was done partly in order to prevent accidental saving into shared vaults unintentionally, but we're taking customer feedback on the current approach too. I'll look forward to learning your experience with it.

August 4, 2022

I would like a way to save to my shared vault by default. My partner and I both find the current default quite annoying. I can't tell you the number of times we've said "Hey, where's the password for " "It's in 1 Password." "I don't see it." "Oh, it must be in my private vault, hold on. Ok, shared. Sorry about that, stupid default." "Thanks. Yeah."

It was amusing the first few times but it's gotten really old. I can understand why you don't want to make it the default, or even make it possible to do by accident, but could we please have a way to say "yes, I really really do want to share things by default."

1Password Employee
August 4, 2022

Hey @Charles_Haynes

I appreciate the input. Do you have any items that you do not wish to share? The reason I ask is that I have an idea which could help if you want to share everything. In that case it may make sense for you and your wife to share an individual membership. If you do have some items you want to keep private / unshared the best I can recommend for the moment is to check which vault the item is being saved into before saving it, but I can see how that can become tiresome. I'll do my best to advocate for improvements here.

Ben

August 4, 2022

Thanks @1P_Ben . I can see how having a single individual membership would solve the sharing problem, but it's convenient to have separate 1 Password accounts to keep track of things like different investment account logins, different bank account logins, different credit cards and so on. I can see how we could still name them differently but it's also convenient that we have our own logins. If at some time in the future we wanted to stop sharing the passwords having two memberships simplifies that.

I appreciate your trying to figure out a solution that works for everyone.

September 3, 2022

@1P_Ben - I want to add my voice to this conversation.

I started using 1Password for my business, but have now added all my family members, my partner, my 2 kids and my parents. It's GREAT to have my kids have their own account, so that when it's appropriate they can truly have their own account. However for now I want any new logins that they create to be created in a specific shared vault. They each have 2 shared vault one per kid with the parents and 1 shared with all family members. I want the default to be the kid and parent. Then if needed they can move (or create and specify) that it should be shared with the full family. But right now they keep creating logins and think it's shared when it's not :(

1P_Tommy
1Password Employee
September 3, 2022

@BurnsFamily

I understand your situation. My kids (younger, do the same thing) and the older ones have now grasped the situation. I can certainly work with this while I advocate for the feature. I appreciate you sharing your use case.

@Charles_Haynes

I've also added your comments to the ongoing internal discussion. Thank you for sharing them.

ref: IDEA-I-292

October 12, 2022

I too miss the default vault selection from prior versions. Maybe the best solution would be to give the user an option (in settings) to select a default vault for new items with one of those selection items being "Select at time of entry". That way those of us that share almost all of the entries can select and existing default vault, and those that don't can choose to make a vault selection at time of making the new entry.

Thoughts?

1P_Tommy
1Password Employee
October 12, 2022

@JWStephenson

Hopefully, we can improve here. I'm sorry that has not happened. Thanks for letting us know this is important to you.

ref: IDEA-I-292

October 17, 2022

Please restore the ability to set a default vault for new items. There's a lot of feedback here, and it is nearly universal that taking that feature away is wrong. It feels like the developers could be listening better to what the paying customers want. The use cases here seem to me to be very well articulated and not particularly complicated -- and I'm a software product manager myself. The advocacy is to not take away the ability to create items by default in a private vault if that's what some users prefer, even though from this forum those users appear to be a very small minority. It is to give users and administrators a choice. Personally, I've gone through the effort of setting up a family/team vault only because I can't otherwise have multiple family users use it on a single computer -- I didn't even want multiple vaults in the first place, you forced them on me. As such, I intend credentials to be be shared, and it causes genuine trouble when they're not -- and right now it is VERY easy for people to unwittingly create ones that are not. Please listen, and act. At first I appreciated all of the 1Password staff who commented here, but since it hasn't translated into developer action, that's stopped being satisfying.