Currently in 1Password 8, the behavior when tapping a password field is to copy that field to the clipboard, but more often than not I need a quick way of seeing the value of that password. I know I can tap and hold to “Reveal Password”, but I would love a faster way to do this. A couple of ideas are:
\n1) Provide a setting that controls the default behavior (either “tap to copy”/“tap and hold to reveal”, or vice-versa)
\n2) Provide a “Reveal” tap target next to every password field (like the eye icon when typing in your master passcode on the lock screen)
The first option actually feels more natural to me, as I could always copy using the normal iOS copy/paste gestures once revealed.
\n\nThanks!
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\n1) Provide a setting that controls the default behavior (either “tap to copy”/“tap and hold to reveal”, or vice-versa)
\n2) Provide a “Reveal” tap target next to every password field (like the eye icon when typing in your master passcode on the lock screen)
The first option actually feels more natural to me, as I could always copy using the normal iOS copy/paste gestures once revealed.
\n\nThanks!
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Easier way to Reveal Password","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:38294"},"body":"I wish it went back to the earlier early access builds when if you pressed on the password field it showed up with all the options also like 1P7
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\n\n“One reason that I use reveal password so frequently is because of my work environment. Due to corporate policy, I cannot install 1Password on my work laptop, and our corporate firewall blocks the 1Password.com website. As a result, I have to extract all of my 1Password data from my phone and type it in manually on my work computer. So while pinned fields help for the most common use cases, they don’t come close to covering all 1Password needs throughout the work week.”
\n\nI agree that copying is generally preferred as the default action when both 1Password and the app/webpage you’re filling are on the same device. That’s why I’m suggesting the “eye” icon next to all password fields. If you want the default copy behavior, tap on the field as you normally do. If you want to reveal the password, tap on the “eye” icon just like you can do when typing your master password on the lock screen.
\n\nThanks for listening!
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\n\nCopying and pasting or autofill-ing is ALWAYS preferable or course.
\n\nI’d say I probably need to reveal about 1/5 of the time compared to 4/5 of the time I’m copying/pasting.
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\n\nTo help understand and advocate for your requests, can you elaborate on the use cases that you have for revealing vs copying? From what we have seen, copying is the desired command far more often since you can copy the password, switch to another app, and paste it. And this is usually for cases where the extension or the autofill feature couldn't do it for you.
\n\nWhat cases do you use for revealing and how often do you do this compared to copying?
\n\nThanks,
\nKevin
For whatever it’s worth, my spouse and I are not fans of the new, less discoverable and time consuming long press to reveal action.
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\n\nThe reveal action is so common, though, that I would still like this to be present throughout the app. (Not always as large type either… I actually find the non-large type display of passwords better most of the time.)
\n\nOne reason that I use reveal password so frequently is because of my work environment. Due to corporate policy, I cannot install 1Password on my work laptop, and our corporate firewall blocks the 1Password.com website. As a result, I have to extract all of my 1Password data from my phone and type it in manually on my work computer. So while pinned fields help for the most common use cases, they don’t come close to covering all 1Password needs throughout the work week.
\n\nHope this clarifies the use case a bit. Really appreciate your feedback.
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\n\nPinned fields will default to copying the value of the field, but it is actually possible to change the default behavior on a per-field basis. If you Tap and Hold a pinned field, you should be able to tap \"Default Action\" and there you will be able to toggle between \"Copy\" and \"Show in Large Type\".
\n\n\n\n
I hope that's helpful!
\n\n-Alex
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\n\nA swipe gesture is a good suggestion too.
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