Feature Request: Unlock 1Password for iOS using a custom PIN and not the device passcode

Hi Dave,
I second @johnnyV3 . Please expedite this matter.
Thanks

Best Regards
Munoo

Hi Dave,

You seen to be missing the essence of what everyone is requesting here.

Everyone in this thread has explained that they want the same unique PIN functionality back that was in 1Password 7, as do I.

FaceID is not secure enough, our 1Password account passwords are far too long and complex to use, and our device PINs are often known by friends and family. Therefore the only viable option for us is the unique PIN feature.

In 1Password 7, if the unique PIN is entered incorrectly just once, you have to enter your full 1Password account password. This makes the unique PIN option very secure and the preferred unlock method for many users.

I will be using 1Password 7 until the unique PIN feature is introduced in version 8. And truthfully, if the feature is not introduced to version 8 and users are forced to upgrade the app, I will move to a different vaulting vendor.

Please understand the options you keep presenting in this thread are not sufficient, and your customers need the unique PIN feature brought back.

Thank you,
Jonathan

Thanks again for the feedback. 🙂

-Dave

Dave,
Great. Thanks. At least now I'm aware of the iOS version's behavior.

-- Mark

mjudman

I've filed a feature request on your behalf to reconsider how revealing the account password works in 1Password for iOS to make it more consistent with the desktop version. Thank you for the suggestion. 🙂

-Dave

ref: PB-33634162

Thanks, Dave. I wasn't seriously planning on using "12345" as a password, but merely trying to use it to question the idea that because of the 1Password's use of a secret key, even a dumb password like "12345" would presumably be secure (as long as evildoers didn't have possession of one's unlocked phone).

As to password reveal, thanks. I wasn't aware that the eye icon to the right didn't show up until one starts to type. At that point I'm concentrating on the keyboard. This is inconsistent with the Mac app, in which the eye icon shows up before one begins typing.

-- Mark

mjudman

I recommend using our guide to choose a strong but easier to type in account password, I don't recommend using "12345": How to choose a good 1Password account password

That being said, I've passed your feedback along to the team.

In the meantime, it would be great to have the option of revealing the password on the iPhone app, just like it's now possible in the Mac app, so typos could be easily corrected without reentering the whole thing.

You can reveal the password when using 1Password 8 for iOS by beginning to type your account password into the app's lock screen and then tapping on the eye icon to the right of the password field.

-Dave

Dave,
Thanks for your quick response.

I am aware that the iPhone passcode can be made long and complex, but that seems rather like overkill for most of the stuff on the phone, photos, etc., other than 1Password. So it seems inefficient to go this route just to have a shorter password for 1Password, but an awkwardly long passcode for routine unlocks.

As to making a shorter or easier password for 1Password, I don't think the use of the 32-character Secret Key means that I could prudently change my password to "12345". I assume your point is that my data on your server would still be secure if I changed to "12345" (which, by the way, I don't plan on doing).

For now I suppose I'll continue grumbling about inputting my password on the iPhone app or weighing the risk of evildoers unlocking 1Password with my phone and my face.

In the meantime, it would be great to have the option of revealing the password on the iPhone app, just like it's now possible in the Mac app, so typos could be easily corrected without reentering the whole thing.

-- Mark

@pete16 and mjudman

Thank you for the feedback. Our Product team recently considered all of the requests and suggestions that we received from folks (here on the forums, over email, and in other places such as user studies) regarding PIN unlock and added device passcode (PIN) unlock as a result of that feedback: Use your device passcode to unlock 1Password for iOS

I'm not personally aware of plans to introduce a custom PIN at this time however I've filed feature requests on behalf of everyone in this thread for future consideration. We appreciate that you took the time to voice why such as a feature would be useful to you.

I've got a nice long password, which, of course, is a pain to enter on my iPhone. I know about using FaceID but feel uncomfortable about the fact that someone in possession of both my phone and me, could unlock 1Password very easily. Of course, using the iPhone's passcode alone is not too secure.

Just in case you didn't see my post above: You can make the iPhone's passcode longer and more secure by using this guide from Apple: Set a passcode on iPhone - Apple Support (CA)

Alternatively, since your 1Password account is protected by both your account password and the 32-character Secret Key, you can change your account password to be easier to type in while still being secure.

I know that these are not the options that you're looking for but I'm mentioning them in case they help. 🙂

-Dave

ref: PB-33571563

Adding an optional, extra passcode requirement.

Why? Because inputting a long password/passphrase on the iPhone is too hard and using FaceID is too easy.

I've got a nice long password, which, of course, is a pain to enter on my iPhone. I know about using FaceID but feel uncomfortable about the fact that someone in possession of both my phone and me, could unlock 1Password very easily. Of course, using the iPhone's passcode alone is not too secure.

As a suggestion, I'd like it if there was an option to require a numeric passcode (not the iPhone's passcode) after the FaceID was passed, as an additional feature for the insecure, like me.

Thanks.