After master password change on other device, able to view vault before reauthenticating on app
First time 1Password user after jumping ship from LastPass. Sorry if this has been posted before but I couldn't find anything and didn't have a lot of time to keep digging so here goes:
Setup 1Password doing the trial with a temporary master PW. Installed the desktop and Android app and using it for the past week or so. Decided to commit to 1Password, so changed my master password on the 1password website via my Windows machine--no problems there.
Go to my Android phone and open the app get prompted to re-enter my secret key and new PW which is good but, if I "arrow back" I'm able to still see my vault. Shouldn't 1Password prevent me from seeing/accessing my vault if it senses (which it did) that my master PW changed and ask me for updating things before letting me see my vault? That would seem far more secure. If, God forbid, I lost my phone and changed my 1Password master PW on another device I would hope that the app would be invalidating any access until new creds are entered. Yes, I do have a pin and bio data set on my phone to make it harder but it just seems like a bad idea to let me see my vault before entering the updated password. Even LastPass in all of their irresponsibility doesn't allow for that to happen. I really like 1Password but am I missing something?
1Password Version: 8.9.13 Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: Win 10 and Android 10.0.15
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On a Windows 11 PC, I started to regenerate a secret key. I pressed the regenerate key and I expected to see a web page to create the emergency kit for printing and then safe storage. After pressing the regenerate key, a webpage appeared asking me to insert the new secret key and the master password. I had no opportunity to copy the secret key. Now I am unable to access my 1Password account. This is a serious problem. Any ideas on how to recover my account?
I have 1Passwords on multiple devices including another Windows 11 PC and an iPhone. When I try to login from the iPhone it says \"offline mode.\" I do not want to mess with 1Password on the iPhone. I do not want to lose any chance of recovery. Anyone know what offline mode means?
Thanks.
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On a Windows 11 PC, I started to regenerate a secret key. I pressed the regenerate key and I expected to see a web page to create the emergency kit for printing and then safe storage. After pressing the regenerate key, a webpage appeared asking me to insert the new secret key and the master password. I had no opportunity to copy the secret key. Now I am unable to access my 1Password account. This is a serious problem. Any ideas on how to recover my account?
I have 1Passwords on multiple devices including another Windows 11 PC and an iPhone. When I try to login from the iPhone it says \"offline mode.\" I do not want to mess with 1Password on the iPhone. I do not want to lose any chance of recovery. Anyone know what offline mode means?
Thanks.
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Wondering if you ever got resolution to this issue. I just ran across a similar issue. Reset account using recovery key and was told I was given a new secret key but was never given a link or anything to my new emergency kit. Mobile account is offline (so no access to new credentials) and Windows PC web browser account is fully inaccessible without the secret key, which, again, I have no way of accessing. The chat bot was useless, awaiting email in reply to my support ticket. It's really problematic that a 1Password user can so easily get themselves locked out like this, with no warning and no obvious way to recover their sensitive data.
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I had the same issue regenerating my secret key. This should never happen. I think there is some set of conditions in which regeneration does not provide a link or a new emergency kit. I suspect that 1Password does not spend much effort checking that regeneration works since it is fortunately rarely needed.
The 1Password documentation on recovering an account without your secret key is useless. The good news is that once you figure out how to fix it, the fix is relatively simple. The good news is you can use your account with a new secret key in an off-line mode. The easiest thing to do is create a new 1Password account. Using the inaccessible, old account in off-line mode, you can copy or move ALL of your exisiting passwords, documents, etc., to the new account (which has a newly created secret key).
When finished, delete or ignore the old account. Use the new account with the copied/moved data.
Despite the hassles, I am still a 1Password fan. I wish they had a human to contact at 1Password in this situation. They need to fix the documentation.
The secret key is the biggest differentiator between 1Password and its competitors. It increases account security vs the competition.
Best wishes.
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Thanks so much for the reply. It's vastly more helpful than the copy/pasted text I received via email from \"Luke H\" at 1Password customer service.
I'm very hesitant to do anything else with my account without knowing the consequences, since I'm still logged in on my mobile app in offline mode, so have access to my info there and don't want to lose that before I transfer over my data to the new account. The process you're describing makes sense though. Should it be fairly obvious as to how to do what you're describing? Would I migrate my info from the old account to the new one, or is that something I'd do from the new account? Can I use the same email address for my new account? Guessing not since an account already exists under that address...?
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That definitely isn't right! I see that my colleague sent you a reply via email on Sunday, if you don't see it then check your Spam/Junk folder. Please continue the conversation there and the team can help further.
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-Dave
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Thanks, somehow I'm just seeing this, and I did just reply to the email I received. I do think it's good to have some of this conversation on the forum since others are experiencing the same thing and getting validation from other users that it's not just you is helpful and is a way of holding the company accountable. Also, as you see from my reply to the other user in this thread, the response I got in the email was an unhelpful copy/paste of information already available in your help documents, and didn't take into consideration the fact that I was never provided with my new secret key once it had been changed, and the fact that using the recovery code did the opposite of recovering my account, but instead locked me out. Also see the note about how using the secret key in the first place to log back into my account on the web browser did nothing but get me into this endless loop of entering the secret key and being told I need to enter it again.
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Offline would indicate that your device is unable to reach 1Password.com and is unable to sync changes to or from 1Password.com. Do you have access to the new Secret Key? I realize you said no. I just want to be doubly sure. Please check your downloads folder for a copy.
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Assuming you don't, can you advise if you a part of a team or family that can help you with recovery?
If none of the above apply I would recommend getting in touch with my colleagues in email support. They can help you with steps regarding moving the data to a new account as well as any billing questions.
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- Please do not delay. You'll want to move the data before you start getting copies in different places that do not align.
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