Standalone vaults in 1Password 8

1P_Ben

That volatile cache will not cut it for someone that has for example a couple million USD worth of cryptocurrency.

Many people want to be sovereign.

@maesitos,

The 1Password apps cache your data locally, so even if you were somehow prevented from accessing the 1Password service, that would not result in you losing your data.

Ben

Without a standalone license and access to local vaults you are a step away from being potentially cancelled from your own passwords. 1password might be great and have perfect servers but nothing stops them from blocking the access to their app and/or your data.

Imagine being blocked from accessing your own info for being Russian, for expressing a controversial opinion or who knows what. We have seen recent examples of this type of unprecedented BS.

It is good for the company, as they protect their intellectually property better and keep you dependent… but that is precisely what you don't want. I think 1password users are especially paranoid so you can’t mess with that.

I stay in version number 6.8 and will move to a different solution once it becomes unusable.

I will die free.

Hi @viking1978 I'm very sorry to hear about this.

It is so strange that even i downgraded my version to 7.7 and i am still not able to see the standalone vault menu on my new mac.

That's a bit unexpected, and I'm not sure why that would happen. I understand that you're currently using KeePassXC, but if you are interested for us to follow up on this I'd be happy to connect you with our specialist Mac team who can investigate further.

While we of course respect your specific needs and your choice about how your data is stored, I'd hate for you to miss out on 1Password (if you want to use it) due to a technical issue. We'd be happy to discuss further and look into this on your behalf!

It is so strange that even i downgraded my version to 7.7 and i am still not able to see the standalone vault menu on my new mac.
I also tried to sync all the data in the ~/Library folder to new mac while standalone vault is still not there.

I eventually gave up and now i am using keepassXC to store the work-related password to meet the compliance of company.

It is so strange that 1password is still on my company's whilte-listed password mamanager software since it clearly asks vault should not be hosted in cloud.

It is really waste of time for vault migration and I feel really disappointed about this GREAT feature removal.

For those who are suffering the same, bitwarden might achieve the same but the vault set up seems not as straightforward as 1password. and 1password was also taking care of the backup of the standalone vault automatically. Bitwarden also support custom fields and somehow, many password manager softwares are lacking of this great feature. (finger crossed 1password will not remove it some day since 90% people are not using it)
Joke aside, I reckon bitwarden is the closest password manager for time being. and I will try to self-hosting on my nas to eveluate it further.

1P_PeterG Thanks for the clarification. I do understand your point while rule is rule. I do hope that IT of company would re-evaluate about this. It might change in the future or they might elimiate the password authentication.

I am still in 7.9.2 on my new mac while I could not see the option of standalone vault. I appreciate if it is still possible to migrate my standalone vault from my old mac to my new mac.

Hi @viking1978, thanks for this reply.

We've tried to be clear (but understanding) about the fact that 1Password 8 does not support standalone vaults, and we understand that this won't work for everyone.

To be clear, if you have a 1Password membership, you still have "local" vaults (which is to say, when you unlock your app, you are unlocking an encrypted database that exists on your device). But this different from standalone vaults, in the sense that this device is synced to your other devices via our servers. In both cases, the encryption and decryption happen exclusively on your device.

Another way of saying this is that, while we may pass the encrypted data between devices using our 1Password.com service, we have no ability to decrypt this data on our end, and we never have access to the account password and Secret Key you use to decrypt your data. There is no backdoor, no "other way" to get in, nothing. It's just encryption all the way down.

We made the change from standalone vaults to 1Password.com for a variety of reasons, including that there were hard limits on what was possible with standalones (in terms of features), these vaults were not always exclusively local to the device anyway (but were being synced via Dropbox, iCloud, and so on, which are not designed for this specific use case in the way that our own architecture is), and that they are frankly extremely difficult to assist customers with when something goes wrong.

We do have an open survey about self-hosting options, which we'd be happy to have your feedback on.

But the standalone vault as it previously existed is not going to be part of 1Password 8. If that doesn't work for you, we completely understand, and wish you the best and will be here for you if your needs change at any point.

I switched to 1password because of the standalone vault feature which I have to follow company policy and it is working so well and I am really disappointed about this change.

Could anyone please confirm that standalone vault feature is gone forever, I might have to switch passowrd manager again.

Thanks for this, @solcutter. We will guard your scrambled encrypted jibberish with every bit at our disposal. ♥

I’m disappointed the standalone vault option has been removed , but I do trust 1Password to hold my scrambled encrypted jibberish on their servers . Over 100,000 businesses use 1Password .

Since it’s Zero knowledge encryption and many security protections are in place I’ll continue to use 1pw