I find it a bit cumbersome and annoying that I have to use my master pass every time I restart my home computer and restart the browser (if I'm not using the desktop app).
Given I have to do this ...
After spending an unacceptable amount of time trying to get 1PW to work, and with some fabulous support from the 1PW community on this forum I just can't continue. The last straw was a repeat of the 1PW software (App/Extension/Website which I'll call the Holy Trinity) not matching instructions on the 1PW. The latest was moving from the US to the CA site. It has been painful trying to get 1PW working in our home environment, and I'm sad that I just can't justify continuing.
1PW is clearly a good product technically and is attractive to those individuals for whom this is held in high regard. It is also a solid product in the Password Manager space. I say that after an extensive search and review of articles on Password Manager products.
During my trial/evaluation of 1PW some comments on this discussion reminds me of the wars between IBM Mainframe zealots (I was one at that time) HP and then Microsoft PC supporters way back when I worked in System SW in an IBM environment. Ultimately the decision for all is made based on a number of criteria, some objective and most being subject. What is essential to one is irrelevant to another. One truism I came to after 35+ years in IT is the customer is always right, and that applies even when one makes decisions while unwittingly ignoring issues with their choice.
A PW manager is a tool that allows me to keep track of the many internet sites that require accounts and passwords. Some, such as banking sites require a more robust security posture, for me this means robust passwords and 2FA. It is also essential to follow solid security practices: frequently changing site PWs, changing PW Manager master PW, using 2FA logon's to the PW Manager, monitoring site exposures and the list goes on. It may also be prudent to use a VPN. A PW manager that doesn't support and encourage that while retaining a level of ease of use is not serving the market.
I gave 1PW a solid assessment because of the Hacks of Lastpass. I'm disappointed that for me there were just too many product issues, Hopefully to forestall a holly war on this I'm not talking about the 1PW SW. An example is my error in creating my initial 1PW account on the .COM site and finding out many hours of work later that to be billed in $CA I needed to create an account on the .CA site and then migrate items from the .COM account to the .CA site and then delete the .COM account. An easily made error that resulted in a days of effort that led me to finally give up. All I wanted was to get billed in $CA and the Product required way more work than was acceptable to me.
In closing, I'd like to complement the 1PW Community for the timely and helpful support during my trial of the product. This community and the 1PW users contributing to it are one of the best elements of the 1PW Product.
One encouraging element is the progress on the broader Internet Security world, and the work I see in both PW products I've now got some hands on experience with.
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I find it a bit cumbersome and annoying that I have to use my master pass every time I restart my home computer and restart the browser (if I'm not using the desktop app).
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Given I have to do this multiple times a day a home, why is there no trusted device feature where we don't have to login for 30days or even unlimited duration like I'm used to in lastpass?
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I use multiple different browers at home so I had to re-login countless times each day on each browser unless I installed the desktop app...But that's another app installed on my computer causing clutter and slowing down my startup time. Previously on LP I didn't need to install a seprate desktop app because each browers didn't need login for 30 days (i eventually made it never requiring login).
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Another option would be a passwordless login option for trusted devices..Using faceid on the 1P IOS app to approve unlocks requests.
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I find it a bit cumbersome and annoying that I have to use my master pass every time I restart my home computer and restart the browser (if I'm not using the desktop app).
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Given I have to do this multiple times a day a home, why is there no trusted device feature where we don't have to login for 30days or even unlimited duration like I'm used to in lastpass?
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I use multiple different browers at home so I had to re-login countless times each day on each browser unless I installed the desktop app...But that's another app installed on my computer causing clutter and slowing down my startup time. Previously on LP I didn't need to install a seprate desktop app because each browers didn't need login for 30 days (i eventually made it never requiring login).
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Another option would be a passwordless login option for trusted devices..Using faceid on the 1P IOS app to approve unlocks requests.
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After spending an unacceptable amount of time trying to get 1PW to work, and with some fabulous support from the 1PW community on this forum I just can't continue. The last straw was a repeat of the 1PW software (App/Extension/Website which I'll call the Holy Trinity) not matching instructions on the 1PW. The latest was moving from the US to the CA site. It has been painful trying to get 1PW working in our home environment, and I'm sad that I just can't justify continuing.
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1PW is clearly a good product technically and is attractive to those individuals for whom this is held in high regard. It is also a solid product in the Password Manager space. I say that after an extensive search and review of articles on Password Manager products.
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During my trial/evaluation of 1PW some comments on this discussion reminds me of the wars between IBM Mainframe zealots (I was one at that time) HP and then Microsoft PC supporters way back when I worked in System SW in an IBM environment. Ultimately the decision for all is made based on a number of criteria, some objective and most being subject. What is essential to one is irrelevant to another. One truism I came to after 35+ years in IT is the customer is always right, and that applies even when one makes decisions while unwittingly ignoring issues with their choice.
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A PW manager is a tool that allows me to keep track of the many internet sites that require accounts and passwords. Some, such as banking sites require a more robust security posture, for me this means robust passwords and 2FA. It is also essential to follow solid security practices: frequently changing site PWs, changing PW Manager master PW, using 2FA logon's to the PW Manager, monitoring site exposures and the list goes on. It may also be prudent to use a VPN. A PW manager that doesn't support and encourage that while retaining a level of ease of use is not serving the market.
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I gave 1PW a solid assessment because of the Hacks of Lastpass. I'm disappointed that for me there were just too many product issues, Hopefully to forestall a holly war on this I'm not talking about the 1PW SW. An example is my error in creating my initial 1PW account on the .COM site and finding out many hours of work later that to be billed in $CA I needed to create an account on the .CA site and then migrate items from the .COM account to the .CA site and then delete the .COM account. An easily made error that resulted in a days of effort that led me to finally give up. All I wanted was to get billed in $CA and the Product required way more work than was acceptable to me.
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In closing, I'd like to complement the 1PW Community for the timely and helpful support during my trial of the product. This community and the 1PW users contributing to it are one of the best elements of the 1PW Product.
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One encouraging element is the progress on the broader Internet Security world, and the work I see in both PW products I've now got some hands on experience with.
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After spending an unacceptable amount of time trying to get 1PW to work, and with some fabulous support from the 1PW community on this forum I just can't continue. The last straw was a repeat of the 1PW software (App/Extension/Website which I'll call the Holy Trinity) not matching instructions on the 1PW. The latest was moving from the US to the CA site. It has been painful trying to get 1PW working in our home environment, and I'm sad that I just can't justify continuing.
\n\n
1PW is clearly a good product technically and is attractive to those individuals for whom this is held in high regard. It is also a solid product in the Password Manager space. I say that after an extensive search and review of articles on Password Manager products.
\n\n
During my trial/evaluation of 1PW some comments on this discussion reminds me of the wars between IBM Mainframe zealots (I was one at that time) HP and then Microsoft PC supporters way back when I worked in System SW in an IBM environment. Ultimately the decision for all is made based on a number of criteria, some objective and most being subject. What is essential to one is irrelevant to another. One truism I came to after 35+ years in IT is the customer is always right, and that applies even when one makes decisions while unwittingly ignoring issues with their choice.
\n\n
A PW manager is a tool that allows me to keep track of the many internet sites that require accounts and passwords. Some, such as banking sites require a more robust security posture, for me this means robust passwords and 2FA. It is also essential to follow solid security practices: frequently changing site PWs, changing PW Manager master PW, using 2FA logon's to the PW Manager, monitoring site exposures and the list goes on. It may also be prudent to use a VPN. A PW manager that doesn't support and encourage that while retaining a level of ease of use is not serving the market.
\n\n
I gave 1PW a solid assessment because of the Hacks of Lastpass. I'm disappointed that for me there were just too many product issues, Hopefully to forestall a holly war on this I'm not talking about the 1PW SW. An example is my error in creating my initial 1PW account on the .COM site and finding out many hours of work later that to be billed in $CA I needed to create an account on the .CA site and then migrate items from the .COM account to the .CA site and then delete the .COM account. An easily made error that resulted in a days of effort that led me to finally give up. All I wanted was to get billed in $CA and the Product required way more work than was acceptable to me.
\n\n
In closing, I'd like to complement the 1PW Community for the timely and helpful support during my trial of the product. This community and the 1PW users contributing to it are one of the best elements of the 1PW Product.
\n\n
One encouraging element is the progress on the broader Internet Security world, and the work I see in both PW products I've now got some hands on experience with.
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