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Leon_Guan
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4 years ago

The Search feature in macOS v8

I have no choice to upgrade to v8 from v7 since 1P7 are abandoned. Anyway, despite of the safari integration frustrations, I don't understand why the search feature is such a cripple in macos app. ...
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Anyway, despite of the safari integration frustrations, I don't understand why the search feature is such a cripple in macos app. \n...","body@stringLength":"2056","rawBody":"

I have no choice to upgrade to v8 from v7 since 1P7 are abandoned. Anyway, despite of the safari integration frustrations, I don't understand why the search feature is such a cripple in macos app.

\n\n

For example, sorry for Chinese Wordings in screenshot, that's what I searched for:

\n\n

As the first screenshot, you can see the first item, with a chinese word I will need to search:
\n

\n\n

And then, I search for that words, it told me no result:
\n

\n\n

I understood that's a find feature as well, which can found the excat result, but the search feature was fine for me in v7 version, and it even work in ios version. I am not sure how you handle search and find features as you mentioned here, but those are excatly same words, it just make no sense that no results can be found, even with my bear eyes, I can see those are same words.

\n\n

This did brought me lots of troubles, I used to thought I have lost that passwords....

\n\n

Really hope we can have search feature well polished in macos version, I saw other threads about search feature bring back extra results, but it just brought no results for a simple contain match, maybe it's because I am search for a none-english words.

\n\n
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1Password Version: 8.8
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I have no choice to upgrade to v8 from v7 since 1P7 are abandoned. Anyway, despite of the safari integration frustrations, I don't understand why the search feature is such a cripple in macos app.

\n\n

For example, sorry for Chinese Wordings in screenshot, that's what I searched for:

\n\n

As the first screenshot, you can see the first item, with a chinese word I will need to search:
\n

\n\n

And then, I search for that words, it told me no result:
\n

\n\n

I understood that's a find feature as well, which can found the excat result, but the search feature was fine for me in v7 version, and it even work in ios version. I am not sure how you handle search and find features as you mentioned here, but those are excatly same words, it just make no sense that no results can be found, even with my bear eyes, I can see those are same words.

\n\n

This did brought me lots of troubles, I used to thought I have lost that passwords....

\n\n

Really hope we can have search feature well polished in macos version, I saw other threads about search feature bring back extra results, but it just brought no results for a simple contain match, maybe it's because I am search for a none-english words.

\n\n
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1Password Version: 8.8
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Leon_Guan in order to properly support Unicode they've sacrificed a large part of the previous' search functionality. Apart from just searching from the beginning it now splits words at uppercase letters (Pascalcase). Even worse it does not use boolean AND to search for items that have to contain all words. It uses boolean OR instead and finds all kinds of unrelated items. On top of that the UI doesn't show the results within the list but in a separate window and in order to get all results you have to press CMD+Enter/Strg+Enter. Who thought that this is a good idea has probably never used any of the previous 1Password versions or something like macOS' Spotlight.
\nAll those problems were reported more than 6 months ago but nothing has changed. They've only added the well hidden and strangely placed Find function.
\nRegarding re-arranging fields they've ackownledged that they initially thought this feature is overly complex and rarely used. As with many other regressions they're now resonsidering their decision. I doubt anything will change apart from some cosmetic changes. In my opinion 1PW8 looks and feels like software developed behind closed doors totally disconnected from its long term userbase.

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in order to properly support Unicode they've sacrificed a large part of the previous' search functionality. Apart from just searching from the beginning it now splits words at uppercase letters (Pascalcase). Even worse it does not use boolean AND to search for items that have to contain all words. It uses boolean OR instead and finds all kinds of unrelated items. On top of that the UI doesn't show the results within the list but in a separate window and in order to get all results you have to press CMD+Enter/Strg+Enter. Who thought that this is a good idea has probably never used any of the previous 1Password versions or something like macOS' Spotlight.
\nAll those problems were reported more than 6 months ago but nothing has changed. They've only added the well hidden and strangely placed Find function.
\nRegarding re-arranging fields they've ackownledged that they initially thought this feature is overly complex and rarely used. As with many other regressions they're now resonsidering their decision. I doubt anything will change apart from some cosmetic changes. In my opinion 1PW8 looks and feels like software developed behind closed doors totally disconnected from its long term userbase.

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