1Password v8 is a Mistake

@krusnof You might be right.

I don't have 1Password 7 installed anywhere. I was living on 1Password 8 since last year and I am probably used to not having the features that you are missing. I hope you will let us know, just like you did in another thread. I truly appreciate it.

@roustem The big feature that's missing, is having the categories in the sidebar, the drop down menu for them is absolutely atrocious. How this made it past initial design I don't know.

@roustem there is NO way you've used 1PW8 since last year if it's in this current stage as EA with all the issues—otherwise, I'm assuming you didn't have use for a password manager for that long. This is not remotely close to being a daily driver. And if you're support (I'm making an assumption here, so please correct me if wrong) then you should absolutely not run an internal dev version. And even if so—then you're telling a lot of people didn't catch all these basic mistakes? Sorry, but having a real hard time believing that statement.

You much have been using 1PW7 then long before 1PW6 was outdated—so you have had the features we're all discussing, and if you didn't use them—well, what can I say, you haven't used 1PW to any extend that's useful.

@krusnof Dave and I started the company back in 2005 and used to be the only developers for many years. And we also did (and still do) the customer support. You are not wrong though, I am certainly not using 100% of the 1Password features.

@roustem I appreciate you then doing all this work and response. Suggestion—spend time reaching out to users via focus groups and actually talk to users. I hope you can see the amount of bad posts about 1PW8 already, that's not great as a product company if I look at it (being in product myself too)

Kudos to @roustem for joining the discussion. Count me in as nervous -- I love the Mac and native Mac apps, but the 1Password team has been solid for years now. I'm holding back on judgement (but also holding back on trying 1PW8). Fingers crossed.

Thank you for the feedback, @krusnof and @gtcaz. We kind of treat these forums as our focus group as well, appreciate your suggestions!

You cannot replace actual conversations with forum debates. It's great yes, but not a substitute...

What about AppKit made the editing slow in 7, and what about electron makes it fast? You can keep your new Rust back end and provide a Mac crafted front end experience using native APIs.