Hi
I live in Brazil, and I am an avid user of 1Password.
Here we live under the risk of been kidnapped and kept hostage while the criminals make banking transfers that can that some days to conclude due to transferring limitations imposed by the banks. Most of the people are removing financial apps from their smartphones.
Since all my passwords are stored in 1Password, I am afraid, in a situation like this, being forced to unlock 1Password, giving up my Master Password to the thieves, and they have access to all my financial accounts and passwords (including cripto).
Several years ago, I used to pay for an encryption software called Drivecript. Under this situation this software provided a second emergency password that would unlock an alternative vault with fake data or a limited set of all your files.
I would like to know how I can do the same in 1Password, or any other alternative to protect my personal data under a situation like this.
Thanks
Flavio
1Password Version: Not Provided Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: Not Provided Browser: Not Provided
It's important to understand that 1Password cannot protect you from a physical threat to your life. The strongest encryption in the world can't protect you when someone is willing to use violence or blackmail to get to your data. In that scenario your protection is reduced to your own ability and willingness to withstand the violence or blackmail before giving in and giving the attacker your account password.
But what if you had a hidden vault filled with fake credentials that is unlocked in lieu of your real vault when you use a special fake account password? The trouble with this is that this sort of feature may be nothing more than "security theatre". If an attacker already knows that you have a bank account then you unlocking a fake vault that doesn't contain your bank account's credentials will immediately tell them that the vault that you've unlocked doesn't contain the data that they're looking for. And then they'll threaten you again.
I know that some security software does include a hidden volume feature but even those services come with a long list of warnings explaining how such as feature isn't a guarantee that your data will stay hidden and they warn that the feature must be setup exactly correctly for it to work as intended and to avoid an attacker from learning that you have a hidden vault/volume.
That all being said, I have passed along your request for such a feature to our product team. They'll consider if this is something that we can build, in a secure and effective way, in the future.
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Since updating both 1P and https://1blocker.com (4.1.10) on 12.6.1 I have noticed that 1Blocker keeps on reporting that 1P is requesting access (and asking for me to allow it) not for the site on the page which I am on; but for access to the last site (or domain) which I have just visited.
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Thanks, steph_giles ; and a Happy New Year to you and yours as well :-)
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Will do. It seems as though there's some combination of settings which causes this behaviour; and so somehow reversing/unsetting them has caused it to go away. Alex at 1Blocker kindly investigated as well and determined that the appearance of the 'previous' site is indeed a 1P phenomenon. Your help appreciated.
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I'm sorry for the delayed response, let us know if you experience any other strange behaviour and we can further investigate.
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Happy New Year!
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It can recur, Yes.
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I experimented some more with both 1P and 1Blocker settings and have managed to avoid the behaviour. But I can't be sure exactly which change has caused this.
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Mark_Sealey what happens when you turn off 1Blocker? Is the issue via 1Password still present?
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Hello again, @Joy_1P,
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I have heard back from the very helpful developer of 1Blocker, Alex.
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He has confirmed that this is a bug (or some sort of - unexpected - behaviour) in 1P itself. And not reproducible from their software.
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Any guidance you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Thanks, @Joy_1P .
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Of course:
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@Mark Sealey hmm that is a bit odd. Are you able to share a screenshot of the message about the request?
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Thanks, steph_giles … I think I understand that. It's the fact that it always shows not the current but the previous site (the last page used, a page I am no longer on) needing attention which is puzzling me :-)
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Since 1Password for Safari is a “web extension”, it needs user permissions to be able to function within the browser. Our requirement to “allow access to all sites” achieves two things:
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The ability to scan (read) the page HTML to determine if it’s fillable. This also tells us where/when to inject the inline menu.
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The ability to autofill (write) to the site. While performing an autofill, it effectively changes the HTML. When you submit the autofill, it will allow you to authenticate it properly.
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If you still have any concerns, I recommend going through this explanation of our security and privacy: About 1Password browser permissions .
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I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any further questions.
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