Is the 1Password 8 Mac electron app experiment about over so the dev team can get back to building a quality native app for the Mac? The other option is staying on 1Password 7 till I move my family a...
Another +1 to viswiz and @tomjepp mentioned issues.
I am a 1Password user since 2014 (v4). In fact I bought my first iOS device (iPad) knowing that 1P is running great there and loved it already on my Mac.
Do I miss any functionality in v7? Nope. Nothing.
It has all the collaboration features I ever need from this application, it runs great on the shiny M1 machine with macOS 12.1 on it.
The only thing I miss from the v6 days is light color on the left sidebar with categories. I hoped that dev team just change the behaviour so that 1P v7 has light/dark UI just as macOS supports for some time now or at least provides an option to change it, but that just did not happen.
Overall though - for sure I am much more happy with v7 at the moment as with v8. It still feels much less intuitive and polished in actual use, requiring more interaction and keyboard shortcuts. Have not used keyboard shortcuts with 1P at all, so this all feels like pushing me into a strange territory.
Moreover, being IT admin for years, I see that generally, the less tech savvy person is - the less he/she uses keyboard shortcuts. No doubt that this whole "shortcuts" push will be much less preferred way of interacting with the app as it is possible with v7.
1Password is one of the very few apps that I am completely fine with paying subscription for and I am really glad to support it's development in this way. Even though my main vault is still "standalone" one resting on iCloud (with all different attachments, that just started to gain similar support in 1P vaults) - I will be also fine fully moving to 1P vaults due to years of experience with the application and full trust on the devs.
Pushing a subpar experience with v8 however is not something I am looking for at all. I am using Macs since 2013 and enjoy the extra polish of the apps written for this platform. I really don't care what happens in the Windows world since, well... Microsoft does not seem to care much about Windows at all (never-mind polishing user experience) - all releases I have tested and administered after Windows 8 was released feel like beta software. Unlike Apple who is always pushing for maximum polish. Seriously apps in Big Sur / Monterey just pleasure to use in many ways because of the great attention to detail and one design language.
I really feel like Mac community who is for sure the most loyal 1Password users and customers really deserve to get as polished experience as ever and if for one reason or another v8 is not able to provide it, than it only makes sense to allocate appropriate resources to continue polishing v7. Clearly 1P is a financial success so from the long term user side of things - I see no real "excuses" not too.
I hope AgileBits crew sticks to it's roots and continue to provide the best password manager out there, not allowing for some serious compromises.
1Password 7 functionality wise is already amazing. There is no point in rushing and pushing "changes for the sake of changes". I doubt that today most users utilise even half of the functionality v7 already provides.
1P does not need chat functionality, project management features, integrated audio player or video editor. Today, with even external item sharing that was added in v7.9 - 1Password is literally "can do it all" application that it should be.
I am even surprised that AgileBits team even considers to "drop" such amazing native macOS application / experience that 1Password 7 is today in favour of compromised solution that clearly cannot be a homerun as things stand now, since the core tools are still missing the important bits that native Apple development tools provide for it's own platform.
I wish all of us 1Password 7 users will be able to hold to the native experience for years to come and that if at the end of the day AgileBits teams decides to pull it - the shift will happen only when v8 (or other version) will compromise nothing.
v7 is literally a historical achievement in app development with a long history and trackable evolution path. It is a native citizen in the Apple world. It does not deserve to end up in the bin.
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Is the 1Password 8 Mac electron app experiment about over so the dev team can get back to building a quality native app for the Mac? The other option is staying on 1Password 7 till I move my family account and three companies I consult with to another platform. I loved 1Password 7, 6, etc., but this version 8 is a mess. (Granted, it's better than most electron apps, but that is not a high bar)
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Is the 1Password 8 Mac electron app experiment about over so the dev team can get back to building a quality native app for the Mac? The other option is staying on 1Password 7 till I move my family account and three companies I consult with to another platform. I loved 1Password 7, 6, etc., but this version 8 is a mess. (Granted, it's better than most electron apps, but that is not a high bar)
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Another +1 to viswiz and @tomjepp mentioned issues.
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I am a 1Password user since 2014 (v4). In fact I bought my first iOS device (iPad) knowing that 1P is running great there and loved it already on my Mac.
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Do I miss any functionality in v7? Nope. Nothing.
\n\n
It has all the collaboration features I ever need from this application, it runs great on the shiny M1 machine with macOS 12.1 on it.
\n\n
The only thing I miss from the v6 days is light color on the left sidebar with categories. I hoped that dev team just change the behaviour so that 1P v7 has light/dark UI just as macOS supports for some time now or at least provides an option to change it, but that just did not happen.
\n\n
Overall though - for sure I am much more happy with v7 at the moment as with v8. It still feels much less intuitive and polished in actual use, requiring more interaction and keyboard shortcuts. Have not used keyboard shortcuts with 1P at all, so this all feels like pushing me into a strange territory.
\n\n
Moreover, being IT admin for years, I see that generally, the less tech savvy person is - the less he/she uses keyboard shortcuts. No doubt that this whole \"shortcuts\" push will be much less preferred way of interacting with the app as it is possible with v7.
\n\n
1Password is one of the very few apps that I am completely fine with paying subscription for and I am really glad to support it's development in this way. Even though my main vault is still \"standalone\" one resting on iCloud (with all different attachments, that just started to gain similar support in 1P vaults) - I will be also fine fully moving to 1P vaults due to years of experience with the application and full trust on the devs.
\n\n
Pushing a subpar experience with v8 however is not something I am looking for at all. I am using Macs since 2013 and enjoy the extra polish of the apps written for this platform. I really don't care what happens in the Windows world since, well... Microsoft does not seem to care much about Windows at all (never-mind polishing user experience) - all releases I have tested and administered after Windows 8 was released feel like beta software. Unlike Apple who is always pushing for maximum polish. Seriously apps in Big Sur / Monterey just pleasure to use in many ways because of the great attention to detail and one design language.
\n\n
I really feel like Mac community who is for sure the most loyal 1Password users and customers really deserve to get as polished experience as ever and if for one reason or another v8 is not able to provide it, than it only makes sense to allocate appropriate resources to continue polishing v7. Clearly 1P is a financial success so from the long term user side of things - I see no real \"excuses\" not too.
\n\n
I hope AgileBits crew sticks to it's roots and continue to provide the best password manager out there, not allowing for some serious compromises.
\n\n
1Password 7 functionality wise is already amazing. There is no point in rushing and pushing \"changes for the sake of changes\". I doubt that today most users utilise even half of the functionality v7 already provides.
\n\n
1P does not need chat functionality, project management features, integrated audio player or video editor. Today, with even external item sharing that was added in v7.9 - 1Password is literally \"can do it all\" application that it should be.
\n\n
I am even surprised that AgileBits team even considers to \"drop\" such amazing native macOS application / experience that 1Password 7 is today in favour of compromised solution that clearly cannot be a homerun as things stand now, since the core tools are still missing the important bits that native Apple development tools provide for it's own platform.
\n\n
I wish all of us 1Password 7 users will be able to hold to the native experience for years to come and that if at the end of the day AgileBits teams decides to pull it - the shift will happen only when v8 (or other version) will compromise nothing.
\n\n
v7 is literally a historical achievement in app development with a long history and trackable evolution path. It is a native citizen in the Apple world. It does not deserve to end up in the bin.
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Another +1 to and @tomjepp mentioned issues.
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I am a 1Password user since 2014 (v4). In fact I bought my first iOS device (iPad) knowing that 1P is running great there and loved it already on my Mac.
\n\n
Do I miss any functionality in v7? Nope. Nothing.
\n\n
It has all the collaboration features I ever need from this application, it runs great on the shiny M1 machine with macOS 12.1 on it.
\n\n
The only thing I miss from the v6 days is light color on the left sidebar with categories. I hoped that dev team just change the behaviour so that 1P v7 has light/dark UI just as macOS supports for some time now or at least provides an option to change it, but that just did not happen.
\n\n
Overall though - for sure I am much more happy with v7 at the moment as with v8. It still feels much less intuitive and polished in actual use, requiring more interaction and keyboard shortcuts. Have not used keyboard shortcuts with 1P at all, so this all feels like pushing me into a strange territory.
\n\n
Moreover, being IT admin for years, I see that generally, the less tech savvy person is - the less he/she uses keyboard shortcuts. No doubt that this whole \"shortcuts\" push will be much less preferred way of interacting with the app as it is possible with v7.
\n\n
1Password is one of the very few apps that I am completely fine with paying subscription for and I am really glad to support it's development in this way. Even though my main vault is still \"standalone\" one resting on iCloud (with all different attachments, that just started to gain similar support in 1P vaults) - I will be also fine fully moving to 1P vaults due to years of experience with the application and full trust on the devs.
\n\n
Pushing a subpar experience with v8 however is not something I am looking for at all. I am using Macs since 2013 and enjoy the extra polish of the apps written for this platform. I really don't care what happens in the Windows world since, well... Microsoft does not seem to care much about Windows at all (never-mind polishing user experience) - all releases I have tested and administered after Windows 8 was released feel like beta software. Unlike Apple who is always pushing for maximum polish. Seriously apps in Big Sur / Monterey just pleasure to use in many ways because of the great attention to detail and one design language.
\n\n
I really feel like Mac community who is for sure the most loyal 1Password users and customers really deserve to get as polished experience as ever and if for one reason or another v8 is not able to provide it, than it only makes sense to allocate appropriate resources to continue polishing v7. Clearly 1P is a financial success so from the long term user side of things - I see no real \"excuses\" not too.
\n\n
I hope AgileBits crew sticks to it's roots and continue to provide the best password manager out there, not allowing for some serious compromises.
\n\n
1Password 7 functionality wise is already amazing. There is no point in rushing and pushing \"changes for the sake of changes\". I doubt that today most users utilise even half of the functionality v7 already provides.
\n\n
1P does not need chat functionality, project management features, integrated audio player or video editor. Today, with even external item sharing that was added in v7.9 - 1Password is literally \"can do it all\" application that it should be.
\n\n
I am even surprised that AgileBits team even considers to \"drop\" such amazing native macOS application / experience that 1Password 7 is today in favour of compromised solution that clearly cannot be a homerun as things stand now, since the core tools are still missing the important bits that native Apple development tools provide for it's own platform.
\n\n
I wish all of us 1Password 7 users will be able to hold to the native experience for years to come and that if at the end of the day AgileBits teams decides to pull it - the shift will happen only when v8 (or other version) will compromise nothing.
\n\n
v7 is literally a historical achievement in app development with a long history and trackable evolution path. It is a native citizen in the Apple world. It does not deserve to end up in the bin.
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