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rmpel
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4 years ago

change request: "Password required every two weeks" - remove, change or make optional

Hi. Being a long long time user of 1Password, this is the first time I am genuinely bothered by a feature of the software; The "Password required every two weeks" feature. I know it is "for secu...
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Jack_P_1P
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4 years ago

Hey rmpel:

The short version is we never want you to forget your account password as EnerJi mentioned (thanks for the assist! 😎). Biometry is great, but there are situations where for whatever reason or another, biometry fails, and in that situation you'd have to enter your account password to unlock 1Password. Without remembering your password, there's a risk of being permanently locked out of your 1Password account.

As for why accounts can no longer unlock each other, and instead require to be unlocked with each individual account password (generally speaking, we'd recommend using a single account password across all 1Password accounts you may have), our Principal Security Architect Jeffrey Goldberg has written a much better explanation of why the change than I could: https://1password.community/discussion/comment/608291/#Comment_608291

Let me know if that makes sense, or if you'd like me to dig into it further with you!

Jack

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Hi. Being a long long time user of 1Password, this is the first time I am genuinely bothered by a feature of the software;
\nThe \"Password required every two weeks\" feature.

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I know it is \"for security\" but most Macs have biometrics now. I would love to have the option to skip the password entirely because I use a fingerprint (this would either be \"remove\" or \"make optional\")

\n\n

Secondly, when using multiple vaults (accounts), it was always so that the primary vaults (account) unlocks all. Still does for biometric unlock. Why then does that not do so anymore with this bi-weekly password requirement? this would be \"change\"; keep the bi-weekly password requirement, but unlock all vaults with the primary one. This would ease the burden on unlocking secondary (and more) vaults, but the security problem remains;

\n\n

We use strong passwords for everything, our vaults as well. Can't remember the password even if my life depended on it. Having to dig up the password from a source other than 1Password (because it's locked) to get the bi-weekly unlock started feels much (MUCH!) less secure than using biometrics as I now have to store the password in a text-file somewhere, instead of just in the vault at the office.

\n\n

(What I am saying here, it seems is this; \"the security measure bi-weekly-password reduces the security of the software greatly because insecure methods of password storage are required.\")

\n\n

Final note; I love the beta, the software works perfectly otherwise. love it!

\n\n

With kind regards,
\nRemon.

\n\n
\n\n

1Password Version: 8.6.0 80600006
\nExtension Version: n.a.
\nOS Version: 12.1

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Hi. Being a long long time user of 1Password, this is the first time I am genuinely bothered by a feature of the software;
\nThe \"Password required every two weeks\" feature.

\n\n

I know it is \"for security\" but most Macs have biometrics now. I would love to have the option to skip the password entirely because I use a fingerprint (this would either be \"remove\" or \"make optional\")

\n\n

Secondly, when using multiple vaults (accounts), it was always so that the primary vaults (account) unlocks all. Still does for biometric unlock. Why then does that not do so anymore with this bi-weekly password requirement? this would be \"change\"; keep the bi-weekly password requirement, but unlock all vaults with the primary one. This would ease the burden on unlocking secondary (and more) vaults, but the security problem remains;

\n\n

We use strong passwords for everything, our vaults as well. Can't remember the password even if my life depended on it. Having to dig up the password from a source other than 1Password (because it's locked) to get the bi-weekly unlock started feels much (MUCH!) less secure than using biometrics as I now have to store the password in a text-file somewhere, instead of just in the vault at the office.

\n\n

(What I am saying here, it seems is this; \"the security measure bi-weekly-password reduces the security of the software greatly because insecure methods of password storage are required.\")

\n\n

Final note; I love the beta, the software works perfectly otherwise. love it!

\n\n

With kind regards,
\nRemon.

\n\n
\n\n

1Password Version: 8.6.0 80600006
\nExtension Version: n.a.
\nOS Version: 12.1

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Hey rmpel:

\n\n

The short version is we never want you to forget your account password as EnerJi mentioned (thanks for the assist! 😎). Biometry is great, but there are situations where for whatever reason or another, biometry fails, and in that situation you'd have to enter your account password to unlock 1Password. Without remembering your password, there's a risk of being permanently locked out of your 1Password account.

\n\n

As for why accounts can no longer unlock each other, and instead require to be unlocked with each individual account password (generally speaking, we'd recommend using a single account password across all 1Password accounts you may have), our Principal Security Architect Jeffrey Goldberg has written a much better explanation of why the change than I could: https://1password.community/discussion/comment/608291/#Comment_608291

\n\n

Let me know if that makes sense, or if you'd like me to dig into it further with you!

\n\n

Jack

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Hey :

\n\n

The short version is we never want you to forget your account password as mentioned (thanks for the assist! 😎). Biometry is great, but there are situations where for whatever reason or another, biometry fails, and in that situation you'd have to enter your account password to unlock 1Password. Without remembering your password, there's a risk of being permanently locked out of your 1Password account.

\n\n

As for why accounts can no longer unlock each other, and instead require to be unlocked with each individual account password (generally speaking, we'd recommend using a single account password across all 1Password accounts you may have), our Principal Security Architect Jeffrey Goldberg has written a much better explanation of why the change than I could: https://1password.community/discussion/comment/608291/#Comment_608291

\n\n

Let me know if that makes sense, or if you'd like me to dig into it further with you!

\n\n

Jack

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