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Hello,

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I noticed a couple versions ago (I think it was 2.16.0) that the different sections in the settings of the browser extension became separated into their own pages. This was quite a jarring change, as I was used to scrolling through all of them to find what I wanted. Now, I often have to guess which section a setting is in, and an extra mouse click is often necessary to get to it. I contacted support at the time, but they merely said they forwarded the feedback to the product team, with no follow-up.

\n\n

Could someone from 1Password provide justification for this change? Because to me, it seems like a regression in usability. Google Chrome did the same thing with its settings many years ago, and it was equally frustrating for me.

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1Password Version: Not Provided
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Hello,

\n\n

I noticed a couple versions ago (I think it was 2.16.0) that the different sections in the settings of the browser extension became separated into their own pages. This was quite a jarring change, as I was used to scrolling through all of them to find what I wanted. Now, I often have to guess which section a setting is in, and an extra mouse click is often necessary to get to it. I contacted support at the time, but they merely said they forwarded the feedback to the product team, with no follow-up.

\n\n

Could someone from 1Password provide justification for this change? Because to me, it seems like a regression in usability. Google Chrome did the same thing with its settings many years ago, and it was equally frustrating for me.

\n\n
\n\n

1Password Version: Not Provided
\nExtension Version: 2.16.0 and newer
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Pagination of the Settings - Why?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:83179"},"body":"

Swerve

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Following up here that I'm going to share your thoughts with the team.

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ref: PB-40687079

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That's good feedback which I can share with the team. Do you access the Settings page a lot? Usually the page would only need to be accessed rarely. Let me know your use case and I can pass that along as well.

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I would guess that I access it maybe every two weeks on average. Mainly to check if anything has changed with a recent update. But regardless of how often I access it, the white space and lack of scrolling are still annoying. Btw, the support page that I linked to and quoted in my previous post still has not been updated - it still says scrolling is possible.

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And, I also go to the settings to turn off new \"features\" that I find annoying, like the recent \"Sign in automatically after autofill\". If you introduce new features like these that change people's workflows, they need to be opt-in, not opt-out. Otherwise, people like me are going to be frustrated because 1Password starts doing stuff that we don't expect it to (in this case, hijacking the login flow on websites).

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Hey Dave,

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Apologies for the late reply.

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My understanding, although I don't use the keyboard to navigate through the interface myself, is that navigation is improved for those that do use the keyboard in certain cases.

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That wasn't really an elaboration - you just repeated what you said in your previous post. :)

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That's good feedback which I can share with the team. Do you access the Settings page a lot? Usually the page would only need to be accessed rarely. Let me know your use case and I can pass that along as well.

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I would guess that I access it maybe every two weeks on average. Mainly to check if anything has changed with a recent update. But regardless of how often I access it, the white space and lack of scrolling are still annoying. Btw, the support page that I linked to and quoted in my previous post still has not been updated - it still says scrolling is possible.

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Swerve

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Thanks for the reply. The new tabbed interface helped with a few minor edge cases. Personally, I'm most excited about the improved accessibility experience for folks using things like screen readers.

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the only action that I seem to be able to do there is move up and down through the sections with the arrow keys

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My understanding, although I don't use the keyboard to navigate through the interface myself, is that navigation is improved for those that do use the keyboard in certain cases.

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But with the extension, most people (I would guess) use their browsers in a full screen mode, and with pagination enabled, it ends up leaving a lot of empty space, both on my 15\" laptop and 24\" desktop.

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That's good feedback which I can share with the team. Do you access the Settings page a lot? Usually the page would only need to be accessed rarely. Let me know your use case and I can pass that along as well.

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-Dave

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ref: dev/web/support.1password.com#4151

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Hi Dave,

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Thanks for the reply. What were those visual issues? I don't recall seeing any. Were they just rare, specific bugs?

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And regarding your points:

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  1. I understand wanting a similar interface across the extension and apps, but at the same time, I think it should be optimized for the respective platforms. I don't see why it would be an issue having pagination on some and not others. With the mobile apps, it makes sense, since you're accessing them on a small screen. With the desktop app, it also makes sense, because the settings window defaults to a small size, and cannot be resized (it would be great if it could!). But with the extension, most people (I would guess) use their browsers in a full screen mode, and with pagination enabled, it ends up leaving a lot of empty space, both on my 15\" laptop and 24\" desktop.

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  3. Could you elaborate on that? I don't use keyboard navigation, but I don't understand how separating the settings into pages would help with that. Looking at the https://support.1password.com/keyboard-shortcuts/ for keyboard shortcuts, none of them seem to apply to the settings page, so the only action that I seem to be able to do there is move up and down through the sections with the arrow keys. And I assume that would still be possible even if they were all on one page. Ironically, that support page still says \"To customize these keyboard shortcuts, right-click the 1Password icon in your browser's toolbar and choose Settings, then scroll down to the Shortcuts section.\"

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  5. I'll take your word on accessibility, since that's not something I'm familiar with.

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Hello Swerve! 👋

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Thanks for the question! There were a few different visual issues that the new Settings page addressed but the main motivators for the new design that I'm aware of were to:

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  1. Standardize the Settings page for both the browser extension and the apps so that they look and function more or less the same.
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  3. Improve navigation for folks who rely on their keyboard.
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  5. Make the Settings page more accessible for those who use 1Password with a screen reader.
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Let me know if you have any other questions. 🙂

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-Dave

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