I really enjoy using the password generator. I prefer using the "Memorable Password" both because I think length is more secure than complex and because I still sometimes have to type passwords.
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There are enough websites where the autofill and save don't work that it has become my habit to work around it.
For example I recently went through creating a Wordpress account with accompanying website. The password entry was on a separate page from the username and the "Save in 1Password" was not offered. In addition, because of the password rules mismatch, saving the password would be done ahead of whether the website accepted the password. It's just easier to copy the proposed password so that it can be pasted in the password field and in the 1Password field.
My Bank of America app still has a lame password because 1Password refuses to fill it and I always have to type it (Android). Synchrony bank (store cards) fails every time (web) on autofill but I can copy and paste the password. Federal savings bond accounts are strictly "No Paste". Those have to be remembered and typed.
I also use the password generator to fill in "Security Questions". Those "What is your favorite color" questions are about the stupidest form of security I can imagine. By generating a phrase in the password generator I can enter a sequence that an AI scanning of Facebook isn't going to guess at. Even on those I ran into a 20 character limit on a retirement website.
Actually productizing security questions is probably a different worthwhile effort.
At least with my Samsung keyboard I can get to most of the characters relatively easily. An Apple keyboard would be a nightmare with those high symbol count passwords. And again, I prefer length where possible for security.
By all means if the password generator can consume a website offered set of password rules that would be appreciated.
I would ask if you though about putting in a 2 Factor Authenticator into the app version. That would be a cool autofill. Unfortunately, getting websites to adopt proper 2FA instead of texts and emails means that is still a ways out.
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I prefer using the \"Memorable Password\" both because I think length is more secure than complex and because I still sometimes have to type passwords. \n\n ...","body@stringLength":"1799","rawBody":"
I really enjoy using the password generator. I prefer using the \"Memorable Password\" both because I think length is more secure than complex and because I still sometimes have to type passwords.
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After using the generator for a while there are some things I find clumsy about it.
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1) For the passwords themselves I would wish for a length setting. I prefer whole words on the memorable password (because they are memorable) but I run into length limitations a lot. For example Fidelity's password limit is 20 characters. They also have an extensive set of special characters that are not compatible in their passwords. Having settings in the password generator that would allow me to tweak those values and only generate valid passwords would be a big help. I finally had to pick a password, take it to notepad and edit it to get a combination of valid length and characters.
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2) When using the password generator with a new service I have difficulty with selecting a password, making sure it is accepted by the site, and then saving it in 1Password. My usual method is to cycle to find a password, copy it, paste it into the web site, and then try to create a 1Password entry. It's really easy for the copy to get clobbered in that process and lose the generated password. I would find it handy to have a button for \"Last Copied Password\". I could see a case for calling \"Last Copied Password\" insecure since it would leave that password available unless a timeout was imposed. However looking at the notepad where I copied and edited my password also is arguably more insecure.
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I really enjoy using the password generator. I prefer using the \"Memorable Password\" both because I think length is more secure than complex and because I still sometimes have to type passwords.
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After using the generator for a while there are some things I find clumsy about it.
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1) For the passwords themselves I would wish for a length setting. I prefer whole words on the memorable password (because they are memorable) but I run into length limitations a lot. For example Fidelity's password limit is 20 characters. They also have an extensive set of special characters that are not compatible in their passwords. Having settings in the password generator that would allow me to tweak those values and only generate valid passwords would be a big help. I finally had to pick a password, take it to notepad and edit it to get a combination of valid length and characters.
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2) When using the password generator with a new service I have difficulty with selecting a password, making sure it is accepted by the site, and then saving it in 1Password. My usual method is to cycle to find a password, copy it, paste it into the web site, and then try to create a 1Password entry. It's really easy for the copy to get clobbered in that process and lose the generated password. I would find it handy to have a button for \"Last Copied Password\". I could see a case for calling \"Last Copied Password\" insecure since it would leave that password available unless a timeout was imposed. However looking at the notepad where I copied and edited my password also is arguably more insecure.
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There are enough websites where the autofill and save don't work that it has become my habit to work around it.
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For example I recently went through creating a Wordpress account with accompanying website. The password entry was on a separate page from the username and the \"Save in 1Password\" was not offered. In addition, because of the password rules mismatch, saving the password would be done ahead of whether the website accepted the password. It's just easier to copy the proposed password so that it can be pasted in the password field and in the 1Password field.
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My Bank of America app still has a lame password because 1Password refuses to fill it and I always have to type it (Android). Synchrony bank (store cards) fails every time (web) on autofill but I can copy and paste the password. Federal savings bond accounts are strictly \"No Paste\". Those have to be remembered and typed.
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I also use the password generator to fill in \"Security Questions\". Those \"What is your favorite color\" questions are about the stupidest form of security I can imagine. By generating a phrase in the password generator I can enter a sequence that an AI scanning of Facebook isn't going to guess at. Even on those I ran into a 20 character limit on a retirement website.
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Actually productizing security questions is probably a different worthwhile effort.
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At least with my Samsung keyboard I can get to most of the characters relatively easily. An Apple keyboard would be a nightmare with those high symbol count passwords. And again, I prefer length where possible for security.
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By all means if the password generator can consume a website offered set of password rules that would be appreciated.
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I would ask if you though about putting in a 2 Factor Authenticator into the app version. That would be a cool autofill. Unfortunately, getting websites to adopt proper 2FA instead of texts and emails means that is still a ways out.
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There are enough websites where the autofill and save don't work that it has become my habit to work around it.
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For example I recently went through creating a Wordpress account with accompanying website. The password entry was on a separate page from the username and the \"Save in 1Password\" was not offered. In addition, because of the password rules mismatch, saving the password would be done ahead of whether the website accepted the password. It's just easier to copy the proposed password so that it can be pasted in the password field and in the 1Password field.
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My Bank of America app still has a lame password because 1Password refuses to fill it and I always have to type it (Android). Synchrony bank (store cards) fails every time (web) on autofill but I can copy and paste the password. Federal savings bond accounts are strictly \"No Paste\". Those have to be remembered and typed.
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I also use the password generator to fill in \"Security Questions\". Those \"What is your favorite color\" questions are about the stupidest form of security I can imagine. By generating a phrase in the password generator I can enter a sequence that an AI scanning of Facebook isn't going to guess at. Even on those I ran into a 20 character limit on a retirement website.
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Actually productizing security questions is probably a different worthwhile effort.
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At least with my Samsung keyboard I can get to most of the characters relatively easily. An Apple keyboard would be a nightmare with those high symbol count passwords. And again, I prefer length where possible for security.
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By all means if the password generator can consume a website offered set of password rules that would be appreciated.
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I would ask if you though about putting in a 2 Factor Authenticator into the app version. That would be a cool autofill. Unfortunately, getting websites to adopt proper 2FA instead of texts and emails means that is still a ways out.
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