Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even more glaringly obvious that Mini offers superior productivity.
In 1Password 8, Quick Search is not an adequate replacement for Mini as search suggestions are muddled by comparison and the intuitive urge to click on a entry does not display its details, but rather opens a webpage, autofills and submits automatically whether I want it to or not. This causes serious issues where autosubmit breaks 'remember me' selection, capcha dialogues or fills in a marketing email request accidently. It is also unnecessarily convoluted having to open seperate windows for each listed item just to browse details which were easily visible in Mini.
In Safari, one gets what is the nearest approximation to Mini in 1Password 8, however, its location seems to be tied to the toolbar button and it does not resize. More importantly, the disproportionate size of items in the list and its fixed column width means that most items have truncated names making it difficult to distinguish similar names/accounts.
In the main app it was frustrating to be unable to rearrange Sections in Edit Mode, but now one cannot reorder Sections or individual Fields, neither can one change field-type on-the-fly as requirements change. This is so fundermental to the productivity of 1Password or indeed any kind of database product that I cannot understand how this was not an issue for the designers, developers and beta-testers.
I am genuinely reaching out to Agilebits to help me understand why so much essential functionality has been removed in the update to version 8.
1Password Version: 8.7 Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: MacOS 12.3.1
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I use 1password for quite some time now (7 years and I use the online sync since the start) but it feels like the app is taking a weird directions and got improved for the worse.
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Version 8 really feels more like a downgrade than an upgrade.
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Yes, the app feels quicker and a bit cleaner, but:
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showing passwords only if I click and hold down: takes longer & isn’t intuitive
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search bar gone… seriously that doesn’t make sense. If I open the app Im looking for something: so either it’s a favourite and I find it immediately or I’ll have to search. In version 8 I need an extra Click to open the search function? But why? \nWhy isn’t there a prominent search bar on the homescreen?
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Face ID is quicker but crashes way more often than in v.7
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and not only limited to iOS: why do I need to adjust the settings in every single add on (chrome, safari, Firefox) why doesn’t sync 1password those universal sweeting’s across my devices (e.g. password length etc)
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I use 1password for quite some time now (7 years and I use the online sync since the start) but it feels like the app is taking a weird directions and got improved for the worse.
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Version 8 really feels more like a downgrade than an upgrade.
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Yes, the app feels quicker and a bit cleaner, but:
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showing passwords only if I click and hold down: takes longer & isn’t intuitive
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search bar gone… seriously that doesn’t make sense. If I open the app Im looking for something: so either it’s a favourite and I find it immediately or I’ll have to search. In version 8 I need an extra Click to open the search function? But why? \nWhy isn’t there a prominent search bar on the homescreen?
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Face ID is quicker but crashes way more often than in v.7
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and not only limited to iOS: why do I need to adjust the settings in every single add on (chrome, safari, Firefox) why doesn’t sync 1password those universal sweeting’s across my devices (e.g. password length etc)
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\"If we were to add such a feature (a default vault) ... how would it interact with Collections? \"
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I found this an interesting comment ... because I only use a couple of vaults (one personal, and one shared with my spouse) so I don't see any value in using Collections. Similarly I only use a couple of vaults because between tagging and searching I don't see much value in multiple vaults either.
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So from my perspective (YMMV) you've introduced needless complexity (Collections) while not taking care of basic business (being able to set a default place to save stuff).
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Hi 1P_Ben i do have it as a password manager - I think the issue is I had 7 and 8 side by side and then removed 7. I’d thought at the time that you intended to run parallel releases for a while but it seems it was due to an overlap between two different countries stores. When I removed 7 I think it broke something so I’ll try reinstall. Thanks.
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On v8 opening a document on ipad would not be full screen like v7.
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Hi folks,
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I’d also like to ask if anyone is going to respond to this list?
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There is a lot of feedback here. I wish I had words to respond to all of it. I'm going to do my best.
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@aphonic
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My personal issue is that it isn't registered in iOS as a password manager. It sort of sometimes maybe is there but even logging in to this site, no option of using 1p. It doesn’t seem to be registered as a password manager across the system.
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It sounds like you may not have 1Password enabled for Password AutoFill? Could you please check your settings? Instructions on setting it up can be found here:
The new uk will take time to get used to, but adding more taps to get places isn’t great. I don’t know why we can’t drag down on the home screen for search for example.
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Making search more accessible is definitely feedback we've heard and are evaluating how to best move forward.
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That said I trust the 1p team and I think it’s a hiccup in the very long history, and future, of this tool
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Thank you!
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@Dr_Owssap1
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Don’t forget they removed the ability to set a default vault for saving new items.
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We've heard a fair bit about this as well. For some context on why this changed... we now have Collections, and we also have a spot on the new item/edit screen. This makes it easier to define which vault an item is going to go into because you don't have to switch to the vault you want to save into before saving.
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If we were to add such a feature... how would it interact with Collections? What if you set a vault that isn't part of the collection you're currently in as the default? Should that preference still be honored? A bit rhetorical here, but trying to illustrate some of the reason for the change and hurdles to overcome if we're going to bring a \"default vault for saving\" back.
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I am more worried that IP8 is out for about 2 weeks and still there is not any significiant update.
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We've released two updates in those two weeks, with the following improvements:
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We’ve fixed the supported languages for 1Password in the iOS settings.
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We’ve updated the titles for the Customize Home and Customize Items screens.
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We’ve fixed an issue the caused the item creation screen to disappear if you go to the iOS Home screen.
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We’ve improved the experience of customizing the Home and Items tabs.
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We’ve fixed an issue that caused the Edit button to not work when an item was opened in AutoFill.
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The correct document size will now be reported when adding a file to an item.
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We’ve updated the empty Home screen to be more vertically aligned.
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You can now subscribe to a 1Password membership via an in-app purchase for your 1Password account on the Manage Accounts view.
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We’ve fixed an issue where 1Password accounts added to 1Password 7 wouldn’t be shown when opening 1Password 8 for the first time and the device has the iCloud Keychain disabled.
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Plenty more to come. 😃
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@jiclark
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I’ll add the incredibly annoying fact that the Favorites list is sorted in some totally random fashion with no other sort options!!?? Seriously? How could that have snuck into the release version!
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Yep; you're right. We're going to improve this.
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@ich
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and not only limited to iOS: why do I need to adjust the settings in every single add on (chrome, safari, Firefox) why doesn’t sync 1password those universal sweeting’s across my devices (e.g. password length etc)
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Syncing the browser settings is an interesting idea, but something I'd personally want the ability to disable. I intentionally have different settings in different browsers so I can maintain a separation between work and home.
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Face ID is quicker but crashes way more often than in v.7
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Could you please shoot us an email to support+ios@1password.com outlining the difficulty you're having with Face ID? A description of: \n1. The step you're taking \n2. What you expect to happen \n3. What happens instead
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Would be a great start. We'd love to get to the bottom of this for you.
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search bar gone… seriously that doesn’t make sense. If I open the app Im looking for something: so either it’s a favourite and I find it immediately or I’ll have to search. In version 8 I need an extra Click to open the search function? But why? \nWhy isn’t there a prominent search bar on the homescreen?
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I hit on this a bit above, but yes, we are talking about how we can improve the accessibility of search.
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showing passwords only if I click and hold down: takes longer & isn’t intuitive
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Lots of discussion on this as well. A long press to show a context menu is part of Apple's HIG (human interface guidelines). You can see Apple themselves use it on the home screen. If you press and hold on an app you'll get a similar menu. That said, we have heard that some number of customers aren't quite as familiar or comfortable with this action as the quick tap that was used in v7. The downside of the quick tap is that we can't then have a default action (in 1Password 8 a quick tap copies the password to the clipboard). We're hashing this one out. I'm not sure which direction it'll go, but we do appreciate the continued feedback and will weigh all of it as we consider further changes.
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Thanks everyone!
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Ben
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I too have used 1Password for years. I updated this past spring to the current version on my Mac and it wasn't a step backwards it was a leap backwards and I posted my remarks elsewhere on this board. I am resisting updating my IOS version 7 to 8. I came here to check and I found this conversation - IOS Ver 7 works perfectly. What's to improve? Since they never fixed the current Mac version to something usable I'm not trusting that the IOS ver 8 is going to be any better. So .. for now.... no thanks. I'll use ver 7.
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Having used it for a week or so I don’t think it’s a downgrade but I do think maybe there should have been a bit more work in before release.
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The new uk will take time to get used to, but adding more taps to get places isn’t great. I don’t know why we can’t drag down on the home screen for search for example.
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My personal issue is that it isn't registered in iOS as a password manager. It sort of sometimes maybe is there but even logging in to this site, no option of using 1p. It doesn’t seem to be registered as a password manager across the system. That said I trust the 1p team and I think it’s a hiccup in the very long history, and future, of this tool
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Don’t forget they removed the ability to set a default vault for saving new items. 😰
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I am more worried that IP8 is out for about 2 weeks and still there is not any significiant update. Even on night realeases they exactly haven't improved anything except search function thus far.
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I’ll add the incredibly annoying fact that the Favorites list is sorted in some totally random fashion with no other sort options!!?? Seriously? How could that have snuck into the release version!
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I’d also like to ask if anyone is going to respond to this list?
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