Jumped at the chance to join the early release for 1Password v8. It's not been as smooth as I hoped it would be. Reading some of the feedback here makes me understand that others might be feeling the same way. Want to share some specific thoughts:
1) The overall look of the app isn't right. There's too much space and padding between all the items. This means more scrolling to get to items that fall "below the fold". Might be nice to tighten some of the spacing up so we can see more items at one glance.
2) Searching in the new app is strange - why doesn't the list filter when I search?? That was an AMAZING feature of v7 and earlier. For example, I have two VA529 accounts for my daughters. I could type "529" into the search bar and BOTH accounts would show up and I could just click on one of them to grab my 2FA to sign in. Easy peasy! In v8, when I type "529" the list doesn't filter and nothing shows up in the autofill drop-down area. When I first did this, I thought that the entries had been deleted!!! If I hit "CMD-enter" to search (WHY do I have to do a key press to search when I'm in the search bar??), I get zero results. It's only when I type out "Virginia529" that the two accounts show up. v7 would search "within" words but it appears that v8 is doing "exact match!!" That's painful. I have to remember exactly how my entry is entered in order to find it!‽ Is it EZPassMA, E-Z Pass MA, or EZ Pass MA??? The search feature is very much still in beta and needs a lot of work! (Oddly enough, 1Password for Safari search bar works correctly and can find the accounts...that lets me know the working code is in there somewhere!)
3) 1Password for Safari/1Password Mini is not great either. If I'm not logged in when I click the 1Password icon on my Safari window, 1Password for Safari pops up but then I have to CLICK AGAIN to log in to 1Password. This opens up the full app which then unlocks the Safari Extension. That's an extra mouse move and click when I used to be able to click once and then type in my password. Seems like this workflow could be streamlined.
I really appreciate everything you guys are doing with updating the app and trying to keep it looking fresh. There are some useful features from the previous version that were extremely helpful and I miss them.
Won't be canceling my subscription...may downgrade to v7 but will likely just lazily stick with v8 and hope that some of these changes get made. This is early access after all!
Thanks for listening!
Jacob
1Password Version: 8.4.0 Extension Version: 2.1.3 OS Version: 11.6
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Jumped at the chance to join the early release for 1Password v8. It's not been as smooth as I hoped it would be. Reading some of the feedback here makes me understand that others might be feeling the same way. Want to share some specific thoughts:
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1) The overall look of the app isn't right. There's too much space and padding between all the items. This means more scrolling to get to items that fall \"below the fold\". Might be nice to tighten some of the spacing up so we can see more items at one glance.
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2) Searching in the new app is strange - why doesn't the list filter when I search?? That was an AMAZING feature of v7 and earlier. For example, I have two VA529 accounts for my daughters. I could type \"529\" into the search bar and BOTH accounts would show up and I could just click on one of them to grab my 2FA to sign in. Easy peasy! In v8, when I type \"529\" the list doesn't filter and nothing shows up in the autofill drop-down area. When I first did this, I thought that the entries had been deleted!!! If I hit \"CMD-enter\" to search (WHY do I have to do a key press to search when I'm in the search bar??), I get zero results. It's only when I type out \"Virginia529\" that the two accounts show up. v7 would search \"within\" words but it appears that v8 is doing \"exact match!!\" That's painful. I have to remember exactly how my entry is entered in order to find it!‽ Is it EZPassMA, E-Z Pass MA, or EZ Pass MA??? The search feature is very much still in beta and needs a lot of work! (Oddly enough, 1Password for Safari search bar works correctly and can find the accounts...that lets me know the working code is in there somewhere!)
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3) 1Password for Safari/1Password Mini is not great either. If I'm not logged in when I click the 1Password icon on my Safari window, 1Password for Safari pops up but then I have to CLICK AGAIN to log in to 1Password. This opens up the full app which then unlocks the Safari Extension. That's an extra mouse move and click when I used to be able to click once and then type in my password. Seems like this workflow could be streamlined.
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I really appreciate everything you guys are doing with updating the app and trying to keep it looking fresh. There are some useful features from the previous version that were extremely helpful and I miss them.
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Won't be canceling my subscription...may downgrade to v7 but will likely just lazily stick with v8 and hope that some of these changes get made. This is early access after all!
Jumped at the chance to join the early release for 1Password v8. It's not been as smooth as I hoped it would be. Reading some of the feedback here makes me understand that others might be feeling the same way. Want to share some specific thoughts:
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1) The overall look of the app isn't right. There's too much space and padding between all the items. This means more scrolling to get to items that fall \"below the fold\". Might be nice to tighten some of the spacing up so we can see more items at one glance.
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2) Searching in the new app is strange - why doesn't the list filter when I search?? That was an AMAZING feature of v7 and earlier. For example, I have two VA529 accounts for my daughters. I could type \"529\" into the search bar and BOTH accounts would show up and I could just click on one of them to grab my 2FA to sign in. Easy peasy! In v8, when I type \"529\" the list doesn't filter and nothing shows up in the autofill drop-down area. When I first did this, I thought that the entries had been deleted!!! If I hit \"CMD-enter\" to search (WHY do I have to do a key press to search when I'm in the search bar??), I get zero results. It's only when I type out \"Virginia529\" that the two accounts show up. v7 would search \"within\" words but it appears that v8 is doing \"exact match!!\" That's painful. I have to remember exactly how my entry is entered in order to find it!‽ Is it EZPassMA, E-Z Pass MA, or EZ Pass MA??? The search feature is very much still in beta and needs a lot of work! (Oddly enough, 1Password for Safari search bar works correctly and can find the accounts...that lets me know the working code is in there somewhere!)
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3) 1Password for Safari/1Password Mini is not great either. If I'm not logged in when I click the 1Password icon on my Safari window, 1Password for Safari pops up but then I have to CLICK AGAIN to log in to 1Password. This opens up the full app which then unlocks the Safari Extension. That's an extra mouse move and click when I used to be able to click once and then type in my password. Seems like this workflow could be streamlined.
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I really appreciate everything you guys are doing with updating the app and trying to keep it looking fresh. There are some useful features from the previous version that were extremely helpful and I miss them.
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Won't be canceling my subscription...may downgrade to v7 but will likely just lazily stick with v8 and hope that some of these changes get made. This is early access after all!
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jms_1p thank you kindly for the default-vault kudos! We appreciate it.
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I was able to replicate the behavior you described with the item title on 8.9.10-9 as well. I'll follow up on this internally for you. Thank you for pointing this out! 🙏
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ref: dev/core/core#17651
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@jwessler thank you for this! It's wonderful to know that this has made such a positive difference to your workflow. 😄 We appreciate you letting us know about your experience, both when improvements are welcome as well as when you feel we can still improve.
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Again, thanks for taking the time - and a happy holiday to you too!
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I'm using 1Password for Mac v8.9.10-9 because it includes the ability to configure a default vault (👏👏👏). Unfortunately today will editing an entry I found a very odd behavior that surely must be a bug.
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I was attempting to shorten the Title of an item and I tried to copy a portion so that the portion could be pasted as the new value. Unfortunately that didn't work because the app does allow selected text to be copied.
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1P_PeterG HOLY COW!!! I was using 1Password today and just randomly gave it another shot to search for 529 and lo and behold my two 529 accounts came up with the substring search!!! I guess I don't have notifications turned on because I never saw your reply about the Nightly build...so I had to wait until it came out in the regular release.
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BUT, I'm THRILLED!! Thanks so much for making this change. It's a HUGE help!
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Happy Thanks giving to you and the 1 Password team!
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Hi folks 👋
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We have an update for you!
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In the latest Nightly version of 1Password 8 (80901013), we have added some improved substring search functionality we thought you might appreciate. We'd love to have your impressions if you decide to check it out - otherwise, with some more testing, this should be making its way into Beta in any case.
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Thank you, and best regards!
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Hi folks,
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I just wanted to let you all know about some improvements to searching in today's nightly (80901013) that you all might like:
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Let me know how you get on with it!
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Jack
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I would never have thought that \"search\" and \"find\" were different things;
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I agree, and it's confusing. These two words are circuitously defined, and in common language usage, indistinguishable. You generally Search for something in order to Find it.
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Find has traditionally been used with very specific user-provided search terms. Search is fuzzier, assuming more system omniscience. But any such subtleties seem lost in common language.
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Perhaps 'filter' would be a better word than 'find'? 🤔
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Ben
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@feat_ford the english ui at least uses two different words - search and find. The German translation uses exactly the same word (‘Suchen’) for both.
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It made my day to see I made your day ! 😀
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