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Former Member
5 years ago

1P8 Default Vault for Creation?

Howdy,

I use a non-standard vault as my default vault and in 1P8, it doesn't seem like the setting to set which vault is the default one to save new passwords exist anymore. Did I miss where this setting is or was it removed?


1Password Version: 8.2.0-44.BETA
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  • Collections don't seem to help. I created a Collection of all my vaults excluding the personal vault and it still defaulted to my personal vault when creating a new login in 1password. You need to add a default Vault option. Version 7 and the browser extension have it.

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    ag_andrew
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    @kormoc, that's really great context, thanks very much.

    If you are interested in excluding your personal vault from most of your day-to-day interaction with 1Password, Collections would be a really good way to do that.

    If you click on the Account drop-down and click Manage Collections you should be able to create a Collection that excludes your personal vault.

    When that Collection is active, new items shouldn't default to your personal vault anymore. Give that a try and let me know what you think.

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    Former Member

    So I don't use my personal vault, as it's one that can not be shared with other members of my family. This is the only reason I have a non-default vault setup as default. Is it possible to have the default vault be sharable in the future?

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    ag_andrew
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    Hey @kormoc,

    This is a great question and it's one that we really struggled with. Let me start with some back story:

    Up through 1Password 7 for Mac, the first 1Password Account you added to the app would hold the keys to unlock the entire app. That is, any other accounts you added after the first one would get unlocked when you unlocked 1Password with the password for that first account.

    That meant that we could guarantee that once you had unlocked 1Password, all your accounts and vaults were unlocked and available.

    However in 1Password 8 we changed how unlock works so that no extra accounts come along for the unlock ride when you enter your password to unlock the app. We only unlock accounts that can be unlocked with the password you entered. This is great for security but not so great for guaranteeing that all your accounts are unlocked all the time.

    So we're in a situation where we cannot guarantee that all your vaults are available when you go to make a new item (since you may have chosen not unlock one of your accounts). But what if your default vault for saving was in that locked account? Where should the item go?

    Instead we've tried to choose a smart default when you create a new item. If you're currently in a vault that has permission to create items we'll choose that one. If you're somewhere else in an account, we'll choose your personal vault as the vault for saving. If your're in a Collection, we'll choose the first personal vault we find in that collection. Otherwise we'll use the first vault that has permission.

    We've tried to do our best to choose the vault that you'd probably want. But if we get it wrong, there's a vault picker right at the top of the Create Item window where you can adjust the vault.

    With that in mind, give it a try and let me know if we've missed the mark.

    Thanks again for the great feedback.

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    Former Member

    That only seems to effect for things created in the browser. I’ve never done that as it’s always been kinda iffy on how it creates things. Is there no way to do the same in the app?

  • Hello @kormoc! 👋

    Thanks for trying the early access version of 1Password 8 for Mac!

    1Password 8 was built to integrate with the 1Password for Safari. Make sure that you've installed 1Password for Safari on the Mac App Store: ‎1Password for Safari on the Mac App Store

    Once 1Password for Safari is installed click on the 1Password icon in Safari, click on Settings, and under General you'll be able to set your default vault for saving next to Save new items in:

    Let me know if that helps. :)

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    Former Member

    The local vault was removed for even paying subscription users .....