1Password 8 - Non-native feel

@Lars - I get that it helps free up time for new features quicker, but I'd rather have native high quality apps than new features. 1Password already does everything I need from a password manager. Anything else is just a bonus. However, with the new Electron approach I no longer like the Mac application and will stay with version 7. If version 9 is a native application I'm staying with 1Password, otherwise I probably won't. Same goes if there is a security issue discovered in version 7 that won't be patched in favor of version 8. That's how much I dislike the Electron experience.

I'll give it to you that you have one of the better Electron implementations, but there are still issues that can't be solved with electron, like it feeling like a web app, menus not being able to extend past the application window, and the general feel with things such as scrolling behavior. I don't think I have seen any Electron app with elastic scrolling.

I have chosen to use Macs for many reasons but with a major one being the premium application experience both from Apple and third parties. The fact that all applications have a similar and familiar look and feel that just fits in, and that developers of small and large applications alike are paying attention to this. I'm sad to see more and more applications moving to Electron and similar solutions, but my way to deal with that is to find alternatives by developers who care about the Mac experience enough to use the native UI options available.

Also, as far as I'm aware the iOS application still uses AppKit so there still isn't one truly cross platform solution. I know SwiftUI has its limitations still, but I'd much rather see a Catalyst app than Electron.

Hi @mia:

Regarding the promotion you mentioned, if you send us an email at support+tradein@1password.com, we'll be able to see what we can do for you. :smile:

Jack

@mia - you're entirely correct; most of what we refer to as the Core codebase will indeed be able to be receive changes simultaneously across all platforms with little or no extra effort, allowing us to not only iterate faster, but as a result, have more developer and designer cycles available to move on to other things instead of expending them having to try to match functionality across multiple platforms. The result is the ability to deliver things like https://support.1password.com/fastmail/ (debuted Sept. 28) and https://support.1password.com/share-items/ on a much faster schedule. And to reply to user's feature requests more quickly as well! ;)

I am one of those 1PW veterans who doesn't mind 1PW 8. I don't like the idea of paying a subscription and Agile's offer was generous although I was very disappointed they didn't offer the same for family plans. Felt like a Mike Tyson punch to the gut :(

What I am really hoping for with electron is that 1PW's feature set and bug fixes will accelerate exponentially since the idea is (unless am I mistaken 1P_Ben) that the codebase is shared. New features, fixes, etc can be done cross platform much quicker than before. The dark mode on windows is beautiful although I'm hoping they clean it up a bit).

@ejunkie : Yes, this one pops up - lucky. But others stay somewhere on page 4, 5, .... - no matter if someone adds a comment (it was like this, also others critiqued that matter). For me it is hiding critics.
You should also read also the posts from the beginning of "Early Access". Lots, lots negative feedback, lots of (former) users gave up to share their opinion. Many, like me, will use v7 as long as possible and then switching to a different app. And not only there, also in other Mac forums, where users talk about the new v8, the general critics (GUI, no local vaults, no 1Pwd Mini, ...) is very strong.
You know, AgileBits had a great app 1 Passwort version 7, with a great GUI, native Apple. They threw it to the trash.
And now with v8 we, the users, have to tell AgileBits what is not working well, what to make better (this is what you call "good requests", "good feedback"). These are in so many cases basic requests, basic mistakes AgileBits made in the GUI of v8. They know how to make it better because they have (oh, sorry, had) v7.
If I would develop such an GUI, my boss would have fired me already!

@claus In my Opinion the Early Access Forum is full of good Requests, Bug Notifications and good Feedback.
This Thread keeps regularly popping up on Page 1.

If you don't See "general critics" then the reason is that a lot of People have created new Forum Threads. AgileBits ist not hiding these Threads.
Please keep Up the good Work Agile Bits! V8 has still a Long Road ahead but I really Like it already.

Mirv : Oh, is it down to whetever the X ...? Sure?
Please have a look at all the posts in this section "Early Access" - it is FULL of critics, bugs, hints ....
Almost all general critics does not pop up anymore, sticks somewhere on pages 3, 4, 5 (because AgileBits thinks it is not important anymore and does not want to have shown it on page 1)

Thanks for your input Mark, and for your willingness to give it a try. :+1:

Ben

FYI, I've upgraded to a 1Password account (from an iCloud synced vault that I've had all these years). While I don't really agree with an infinite subscription payment, I do think the 1Password folks deserve some more money for a new major update and for all the work they have done. Second, I took a look here to see what people are saying about the v8 beta. My observation is that if we are down to whether the X is on the right or left of the modal window, there isn't that much that we are complaining about. Also the 1P staff seem to like it and there is a lot of promise of improvements, including listening to the users. So I think I will start testing the v8 beta and see how I like it. Thanks for the great work, support and being open to discuss issues with customers.
-Mark Knopper

AgileBits doesn't care about Mac users anymore, it quantity (subscription multiple os's) not quality, as long as the dev costs are going down (use of electron) the share holders and Jeff Shiner are happy = more $$$$