Changes in 1Password 8

Understood. Thanks.

1PW7 will work with Monterey, and AgileBits will never force you to upgrade (though sometimes it may ask/invite you to do so). Whether 1PW7 will still work with the successor to Monterey no-one can say at the moment.

Quick question as a longtime user: will folks have to upgrade to v8.0 or can they stick with 7.x while being a 1PW family or other subscriber? I know this is early access and things are going to be improved, but whether that is sufficient is of course TBD. Just checking. Thanks.

Thanks much Mark_Sealey. :)

Ben

Thanks, 1P_Ben! And seconded, @ibuys.

There is obviously a lot of misinformation and half truths about.

I've been with 1P for a very long time and really don't want to abandon it and Agile.

Shall wait and see. Good luck!

@ibuys

Thank you. 💙 I care deeply about what we do here. I've been at it for 13 years. It is difficult to not take the criticism personally, but I try to keep in mind that folks only post because they too are passionate about 1Password. If nobody cared, nobody would post, and I'd much rather have a community that cares than one that doesn't.

A tough week, to be sure. Thanks again for the kind words.

Ben

1P_Ben Your patience and professionalism in this PR storm (occasionally my own posts included) is to be commended.

Mark_Sealey

Thanks for your reply. I have a single vault on my iMac. It isn't actually called 'Primary'. I also have a 1P account.

Great. In that case you'll be able to use 1Password 8 out of the box without going through a migration.

its use will be web-based and there will be no native app on my desktop.

If people are saying there won't be a desktop 1Password app anymore, then yes, they're wrong. As mentioned above, the apps continue to be an important part of the 1Password ecosystem. So much so that we recently wrote a blog post on exactly that point:

There’s an app for that: why we built the 1Password apps

And you can read about the 1Password 8 for Mac app specifically, which is now in Early Access (akin to a 'beta'), here:

1Password 8 for Mac is now in Early Access! 🎉

Jason isn't saying that there won't be a Mac app. What he is saying is that it won't be a native Mac app. His concern is about the technologies we're using to build the app, not the existence of it. The fact that we're using "web technologies" to build the app has no bearing on the ability to use it while offline.

Does that help clarify the situation?

Ben

Thanks for your reply. I have a single vault on my iMac. It isn't actually called 'Primary'. I also have a 1P account.

But, since starting this thread, I have been doing a bit of reading. https://sixcolors.com/post/2021/08/not-important-enough-1password-abandons-its-native-mac-app/ are saying that from 1P 8 onwards, its use will be web-based and there will be no native app on my desktop.

I confess to being a little confused. Is Jason Snell wrong?

Mark_Sealey

Sorry, no, that isn't what I mean at all. Desktop and mobile apps continue to be an imporant component in the 1Password experience. What isn't going to exist going forward is vaults that live exclusively on your computer (a "standalone" vault). If you do not have a vault called "Primary" in 1Password 7, this does not affect you. You'll be able to use the 1Password 8 apps just fine out of the box without doing any sort of migration. If you do have a vault called "Primary" then you'll still be able to use 1Password 8, but there would be a migration that would need to be done first;

Migrate your existing 1Password data from standalone vaults to a 1Password account

Ben