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Does 1Password 8 change local backup situation?
In https://1password.community/discussion/114953/do-i-need-to-create-my-own-backup-of-my-vaults-1password-com Ben explained:
"1Password keeps a "local cache" of all of your data in a database that resides inside
~/Library/Group Containers/2BUA8C4S2C.com.agilebits/Library/Application Support/1Password/Data
If you quit 1Password completely, disconnect from the internet, and then restore this folder from Time Machine, you can launch 1Password and it will unlock with the data that was present at the time the backup you restored was taken."
Not great but something. Ben goes on to say Agile are looking for a way to streamline this.
I haven't found any discussion of how 1P8 handles this.
Thanks
1Password Version: 8.5.0
Extension Version: 2.0.7
OS Version: macOS 12.1
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1P_Ben1Password Team
We don't support exporting to PDF, but we do have documentation available on the 1pux format:
About the 1Password Unencrypted Export format
In the case of armageddon, it would be possible to view (and search) your items from this export. It is an unencrypted export though, so the similar precautions (encrypted disk image) would be appropriate.
Ben
Thanks Ben. Related to this is a question about exporting PDFs. In 1P7, from time to time I did 'select all items' and 'export to PDF', which resulted in a single PDF with all my 1P data. Very large, but searchable. (Of course I kept it in an encrypted disk image). I have never used it but felt it was some protection against Armageddon.
I just tried to do this in 1P8 and am not seeing how. I can't recall exactly what I did in 1P7 and I have now deleted 1P7 and gone all in with 1P8. Has something changed in 1P8?
Also I see I can 'select all' and export a .1pux file, but not clear what I co do with a .1pux file?- 1P_Ben
You're welcome. And you're right, in terms of the local cache, nothing has been removed. :+1: That said the local cache was not designed to be a backup. It can function in that role, but for some use cases there is a fair bit to be desired. For example, it doesn't have its own versioned snapshots: for the local cache to serve as a backup we'd be reliant on an external source like Time Machine to serve that purpose. Fortunately most folks concerned about local backups do have something like Time Machine set up. I think we can do more/better here though, and hopefully that'll prove to be the case. 🤞🏻
Ben
Thanks, so 1Password doesn't remove any capability here. That's good news. What you describe is certainly not convenient but restoring from a local backup would be an extremely rare event, so convenience is not a big deal.
Lack of local backup is an oft repeated criticism of 1P which doesn't seem to be justified.
- 1P_Ben
Hi @mikebore
At present, the situation is the same as it was. We are looking to build a "1pex" (1Password Encrypted Export) format that will hopefully better satisfy some of the use cases surrounding this. :+1:
Ben
