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1P_MattG
1Password Team
2 years agoExperiment #3 - Nearby Items
Hi y'all!
I can't believe we are already shipping Experiment 3?! This one has a very special place in my heart. This project actually came out of a Hackday we did internally. Everyone was SOOOO ex...
Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
2 years agoHello Maubro,
Great feedback to receive, thank you for providing such a thorough follow-up 👍🏻.
1Password not only seeks feedback from the community for new experiments but also actively responds
You bet! It's important to us that we are able to discuss these experiments and our app in general with those who rely upon it and want to help improve 1Password in which ever form this takes.
I was really searching for where I could edit and add “items”.
Thanks for letting us know the confusion with 'items', up-until this thread, I'd never heard of the hesitance of this term and it has absolutely been spurring conversations for me as to how might we address this.Eventually, I figured it out.
Ah, superb - that's good to hear!I started to think about how this feature could actually benefit me. What is truly interesting for me about this feature? Something I’ve always run into that this now finally makes possible? After pondering it for a few more days, the answer ultimately was. No idea.
Thank you, for taking the time to mull it over and share this with us. Not every feature or idea we concept/provide as an experiment will be for everyone. There are parts to this feature we've been discussing internally that we've not yet got to a state we're ready to share so while it might not inspire in it's current form, there are ways and means that we see this addressing a number of needs for for those using 1Password inside and outside of their working days, with family or simply them on their own.
It’s super nice to see the positive reactions and even nicer to see 1Password react so enthusiastically. That it really adds value for 1Password.
Oh you... Thank you again. This is great to hear, and is very encouraging.
Yet, I still don’t see a superior advantage in this feature.
.. Go on...And that’s why I thought it’s important to share my view on this as well.
I'm super grateful!(Without stepping on the toes of other enthusiasts, I do bring in some examples from them to bolster my arguments. So please don’t feel attacked, as that’s not my intention.)
This is a community space for everyone to share their opinions with respect for others. A safe space if you will. You're good. :)Security is the core activity of AgileBits in the form of the app 1Password.
Sure is! We're here to ensure that security is first and foremost of what we do, yet making it convenient for those who may not feel comfortable around 'security' without compromising it.A feature like this, in my opinion, deviates from the core quality of AgileBits.
👀This feature is about “convenience,” and as I see it now, this feature has nothing to do with the core of security. Maybe because I don’t see it, that could certainly also be the case, but then please explain to me where the “security” aspect of this is.
The idea that inspired this, was a story of a highly security conscious couple who use 1Password for everything, and a code for an alarm box which was 'buried within 1Password' when she needed to turn the alarm off and didn't have the code to hand.
What if, that code could have been there for her right when and where she needed it. Sure, he could have just sent the code to her in a message, yet that requires time and that alarm was blaring and she needed that code — and — let's focus on using a security app for this and I'm using an alarm code for a shed as a very simple metaphor for other more critical cases where there might be a need for finding things.
This is a convenience feature and it is a security feature for promoting better habits for users. Removing potential weak links in the chain so to speak. After all, 1Password should be used and hopefully loved by those using it frequently. If you're not using it, and you're relying on sharing things in plain text.... You know the rest of that story. So we must make it approachable and convenient so it can provide security for those who are using it.
If you ask me, I’d say: AgileBits, stick to what you are incredibly good at; 1password's security. And don’t add extra nice to haves to your app because that only distracts from what it should really be about.
Thank you for sharing this, however please remember that our focus is always on security.
You've got to make the unfamiliar, familiar, to those who need things in a secure manner or they're going to take another path where things may not be as secure. Convenience in a secure manner is good security to ensure you're providing a secure option to as many as you can or you're alienating those with poor security habits.
Additionally, my advice to 1Password for every (new) feature you roll out in the lab would also be to assign a rating according to the Moscow method to the experiment in “The primary questions I'm trying to answer.”
Thank you again for this also, we do follow similar practices in workflow already. That said, today I've learned about 'The Moscow Method' as a name for this practice.
Cheers and please do keep the feedback coming.
Benji