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1P_Dave . Not everyone uses Face ID. Entering a long secure 1password password isn't always ideal. If the concern is users will lock themselves out because they don't understand what is their PIN and what is their actual password. Can we have it so that the full password is required on every 10th login or every 2 weeks like on the Mac version of 1password? Just curious?
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Thanks for any help you can offer. You know you make a great product, it's just this backward step in functionality is very disappointing for savvy long term users.
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Many thanks. Pete
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I've merged the two threads together so that we can keep the conversion in one place. As mentioned in my reply to you yesterday, I've passed your comments along to the team. 🙂
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@pete16
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Thank you for the feedback. Using the device passcode to unlock 1Password is optional and, if it doesn't fit your personal threat model, then you can unlock 1Password using Face ID / Touch ID or your account password instead. I've shared your request regarding a custom PIN with the team as well.
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-Dave
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ref: PB-33545334
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Hi 1P_Dave , \nI second with @pete16 . It is the legitimate concern. \nPlease re-instated pin code.
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Hi Dave,
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Many people who might see you regularly at work might know your iPhone passcode. Also children know our phone passcode. We don’t want either of these groups knowing how to access 1password.
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Recent stories of phone being stolen with known passcodes is an also a major security threat I am concerned about. I'm sure most users and your team here will have heard of the news linked here. \nhttps://appleinsider.com/articles/23/02/24/if-both-your-iphone-and-passcode-get-stolen-youre-in-deep-trouble \nhttps://9to5mac.com/2023/04/19/locked-out-of-apple-accounts/
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I am requesting the unique PIN available in 1password 7 be re-instated in 1password 8.
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Dear 1Password team, \n I trust this message finds you all in good health.
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I would like to formally request the addition of a separate Pin Code feature in 1Password 8, separate from the device PIN Code. This particular functionality was available in 1Password 7. \nWhile it is true that 1Password 8 has introduced Pin code support, it is currently limited to the device's PIN code. In contrast, 1Password 7 allowed users to set a different Pin code for enhanced security purposes.
\n\n
At present, 1Password 8 offers three locking options:
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Master Password: The purpose of a password manager is to relieve the burden of remembering multiple passwords, requiring only the recall of a single master password. My master password is both complex and lengthy, rendering it inconvenient to input each time 1Password is used.
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Face ID: In certain situations and specific workplaces, the use of Face ID may be prohibited, necessitating the use of a passcode as an alternative. Personally, I harbor concerns about the security of relying solely on Face ID for 1Password. Notably, many applications, such as Dropbox, provide the capability to set a pin code.
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Pin Code: Password managers bear significant importance for numerous individuals as they store valuable account credentials, bank details (including credit/debit card information), and secure notes. To enhance security and foster peace of mind, it is advisable to assign a distinct pin code to each specific application. The probability of someone inadvertently discovering your device's passcode outweighs the likelihood of them gaining access to the app's passcode.
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I am aware that 1Password utilizes a distinctive 34-character Secret Key to safeguard user accounts. In addition, I have taken the precautionary measure of enabling two-factor authentication (2FA) through the use of a Yubikey.
\n\n
Nevertheless, my request does not pertain to the introduction of a novel feature. 1Password 7 already possesses this feature that I am referring to. Any many other Apps also do. Therefore, I kindly request that you reinstate this feature in the current version.
\n\n
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
\n\n
Best regards, \n Munoo Chahar
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Hi, \nI couldn't find this thread earlier, so I initiated a new thread regarding this issue. I have posted a comment there. Now I am posting here as well.
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Dear Dave_1P,
\n\n
I would like to express my gratitude for your prompt reply. I am aware that 1Password utilizes a distinctive 34-character Secret Key to safeguard user accounts. In addition, I have taken the precautionary measure of enabling two-factor authentication (2FA) through the use of a Yubikey.
\n\n
Nevertheless, my request does not pertain to the introduction of a novel feature. 1Password 7 already possesses this feature that I am referring to. Any many other Apps also do. Therefore, I kindly request that you reinstate this feature in the current version.
\n\n
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response.
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Best regards, \nMunoo Chahar.
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Thank you for the detailed reply. From what you've written here, it seems that the best option for your specific use case would be for you to change your account password to something that is easier to type in while still being secure. I've linked to our guide about choosing a good account password already but here it is again for convenience: How to choose a good 1Password account password
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Remember that, unlike other services, 1Password doesn't just use your account password but it also uses a unique 34-character Secret Key to protect your data: About your Secret Key
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That being said, I've passed your comments along to the team.
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-Dave
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ref: PB-33532152
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Dear Dave_1P,
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Thank you sincerely for your prompt response.
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At present, 1Password 8 offers three locking options:
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Master Password: The purpose of a password manager is to relieve the burden of remembering multiple passwords, requiring only the recall of a single master password. My master password is both complex and lengthy, rendering it inconvenient to input each time 1Password is used.
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Face ID: In certain situations and specific workplaces, the use of Face ID may be prohibited, necessitating the use of a passcode as an alternative. Personally, I harbor concerns about the security of relying solely on Face ID for 1Password. Notably, many applications, such as Dropbox, provide the capability to set a pin code.
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Pin Code: Password managers bear significant importance for numerous individuals as they store valuable account credentials, bank details (including credit/debit card information), and secure notes. To enhance security and foster peace of mind, it is advisable to assign a distinct pin code to each specific application. The probability of someone inadvertently discovering your device's passcode outweighs the likelihood of them gaining access to the app's passcode.
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I appreciate your attention to this matter.
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