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3 years agoSuper Contributor
Feature Request: Unlock 1Password for iOS using a custom PIN and not the device passcode
This discussion was created from comments split from: Unlocking 1Password for iOS using a PIN code.
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- 1P_Dave
Moderator
Hello munoo! 👋
Thank you for the suggestion! Can you tell me a little more about why the current options to unlock 1Password don't work for your use case? You can unlock 1Password for iOS using your account password, Face ID / Touch ID, or your device passcode.
I look forward to hearing from you. 🙂
-Dave
- munooNew Contributor
Dear 1Password team,
I trust this message finds you all in good health.I would like to formally request the addition of a separate Pin Code feature in 1Password 8, separate from the device PIN Code. This particular functionality was available in 1Password 7.
While it is true that 1Password 8 has introduced Pin code support, it is currently limited to the device's PIN code. In contrast, 1Password 7 allowed users to set a different Pin code for enhanced security purposes.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Best regards,
Munoo Chahar - 1P_Dave
Moderator
@pete16
I'm not on the product team myself but I believe that one of the major motivators was that, in the old days of 1Password 7, we saw a lot of folks permanently lock themselves out of their 1Password accounts or vaults because they believed that the "custom PIN" that they had set for 1Password was actually their account password. Then, when they needed to setup 1Password on a new device, they no longer remembered their actual account password and were locked out.
At the moment you can unlock 1Password for iOS using three different options:
- Your account password, which can be made easier to type in while still being secure: How to choose a good 1Password account password
- Face ID or Touch ID.
- Your device PIN which can be made longer and more complex than just the default 4-6 digits: Set a passcode on iPhone - Apple Support (CA)
Can you tell me a little more about why none of these options would work for your use case? What specific threat are you trying to protect against where none of these options would be an acceptable path forward? I would be happy to pass along your reply to the product team. 🙂
-Dave
ref: PB-33499680
- Former Member
I agree. We should have the ability to use a different PIN for 1password from the device/iPhone PIN. This backward step of functionality from 1password 7 is extremely dissapointing and disheartening. Especially from a long long term user.
I can’t understand the thought process on this. Security is surely at front and centre of your minds and business. This doesn’t make sense.
Please fix this. Please. And please educate me as to why I am wrong. Thankyou kindly 1password team.
- 1P_Dave
Moderator
@mvasilakis
To be clear: I'm not suggesting that you choose a password that reduces security. However, it's possible to choose a password that is easier to type in while still being secure and unique as explained in the guide that I linked to above. It's also important to remember that your data is not just protected by your account password but by your Secret Key as well: About your Secret Key
You can also choose a device PIN that is longer than 6 digits by choosing "Custom Alphanumeric Code" in your iPhone's settings: Set a passcode on iPhone - Apple Support (CA)
That all being said, I've passed along your feedback to the Product team.
-Dave
ref: PB-33332220
- Former Member
Over the years I’ve come to trust allot of info to 1Password and therefore the info in 1password is way too important to trust to a device pin. For 1password I prefer a pin unique to the app. Preferably requiring a password every few days. Also I’m not comfortable shortening my password for comfort sake. 1password is about security and while some folks might be ok with comfort and reduced security, I am not.
While Face ID has gotten better I’m still not comfortable with it unlocking financial website info. If it were the passwords to a few websites I wouldn’t care. But in my case the stakes are larger and a 6 digit pin that unlocks my phone is just too unsafe.
- 1P_Dave
Moderator
@mvasilakis
If you choose to enable the feature, 1Password 8 supports using your device PIN to unlock the app. If you do enable this option then you should choose a strong passcode that is difficult to guess or view. For those concerned with security, you can enable Face ID / Touch ID unlock rather than using the device PIN:
- Use Touch ID to unlock 1Password on your iPhone or iPad
- Use Face ID to unlock 1Password on your iPhone or iPad Pro
Alternatively, you can choose to unlock 1Password using your account password which you can change to be easier to type in while still being strong and unique: How to choose a good 1Password account password
-Dave
ref: PB-33332220
- Former Member
Is it on the roadmap to give us the option to select our own 4-6 digit passcode [pin] instead of using the same passcode that unlocks the iPhone? This seems like a security risk because if someone is able to observe us unlock our phone they potentially have access to our whole lives. I prefer the 1Password7 option where we could define the PIN instead of being relegated to the device pin.