Hi, thanks for updating the interface of 1password for windows, i have immediately subscribed after checking, great job. But unfortunately, it is impossible to open a local vault that we had on 1password 7. There are some passwords which we are not allowed to sync to cloud (for work), hence they must stay local, and personal passwords that I want to sync to cloud. It would be very nice if opening a local vault on 1password 8. Is it planned or will not be possible ever? Thanks. 1Password Version: 8 Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: windows 10

Hi @benwade Thank you for your interest in 1Password 8. I understand the concern regarding the lack of standalone vaults in this version. In case it is helpful, I wanted to outline some of the important aspects of how we handle your data. 1Password always works from a local copy of your data. Data you enter is encrypted before it is saved into this local database. The database is stored on your computer, and syncs when you are online. This means you can access your data while you're offline (or in the event that we are offline). The Secret Key - This is explained more fully in our security white paper, but the short explanation is that if someone were to guess or bruteforce your account password, that still wouldn't be enough to get your data. The Secret Key provides a serious safeguard against this, and the mathematical complexity that it puts in an attacker's path is essentially insurmountable with current attack methods and hardware. It makes it such that even if someone could steal everything from our servers, they wouldn't be able to access any secrets you've stored in 1Password. This key is not available to us, either, so even in the case of a malicious employee with the highest levels of access, your data is protected. We put our trust in encryption rather than authentication. This is because, in short, "Encryption means that 1Password does not face the kinds of threats a largely authentication-based system would face, and we have used an authentication mechanism that defends against many of the threats faced by many other systems." You can read more about this, if you're interested, in our short guide here: https://support.1password.com/authentication-encryption/ We undergo security audits and pen tests, which you can find here: https://support.1password.com/security-assessments/ In short, we have made 1Password as secure as possible, keep the ability to unlock your data out of our own hands, collect nothing besides what's needed to run the service, and continually have our security tested for weaknesses. One of our founders, Dave, wrote about why we're moving away from standalone vaults and to membership exclusively, here. While of course you are ultimately the final judge of what's best (or perhaps even necessary based on policies etc) for your situation, I hope this provides some helpful context for how we're doing things now and going forward. Ben

I have the same issue as Ben - my employer has strict requirements for where their secrets may be stored, with strong regulatory and industry specific attestations required - beyond the SOC2 that you attest to. If you had a docker container / local server option - even if that server required a phone-home for licensing purposes- that would enable my continued usage of Version 8.

There's a survey in progress here concerning self-hosting : https://survey.1password.com/self-host/

Yep; indeed. Thanks for calling that out, @"J.M"! @"Joshua Samuel" I'd encourage you to participate in the survey. This will help us gauge the level of interest in such a solution, and help us determine feasibility. Ben

1P_Ben Will the 1Password iOS app be updated to version 8, or will a separate version be added to the App Store? I wish to stay on stand-alone, Wi-Fi synced, vaults for now in version 7. I’m concerned having app auto-update on will leave me stuck on the new version!

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1P_PeterG
Community Manager
4 years ago
We appreciate the note, @blaukraut, and thank you for your support over the long term. We hope we can win you back some day! Stay safe and best wishes from all of us.
Former Member
4 years ago
Now that 1Password 8 finally pulled the trigger on local vaults I actually decided to move on and got Enpass. I am sad that 1 Password changed their view on local vaults. I really appreciated the app and say thank you for the past 12 years. But I figured now it's the right time to say good bye.
1P_Ben
1Password Team
4 years ago
You're welcome. 🙂

Ben
Former Member
4 years ago
Thanks.
1P_Ben
1Password Team
4 years ago
1PUX is unencrypted. 1PEX will be encrypted. 1PUX is the correct solution for moving from 1Password to another password manager.

Ben
Former Member
4 years ago
Thanks Ben. How does the 1PUX file relate to the 1pex format you mentioned in this thread:[https://1password.community/discussion/comment/624218/#Comment_624218]
1P_Ben
1Password Team
4 years ago
@mikebore

We can't control what other apps can import — that would be on the developers of those apps. That is the intention with 1PUX though, yes. We have created documentation that should make it relatively easy for any 3rd party solutions looking to support importing 1PUX into their products:

About the 1Password Unencrypted Export format

Ben
Former Member
4 years ago

That said, we intentionally offer exports with open formats to ensure your data remains yours.

I am generally pretty happy with 1P8, but am concerned about being locked in for ever, so the above quote is important to me. I have experimented with 1PUX exports from 1P8 and it was not a good experience (https://1password.community/discussion/126092/does-1password-8-change-local-backup-situation#latest).

Are you saying that 1PUX exports are usable as import options by other apps if I ever wanted to change?

Thanks
1P_Ben
1Password Team
4 years ago
Thank you @davido1138. 👍️

Ben
Former Member
4 years ago

Sounds like we're at an impasse, for now. Local vaults are not part of the plan for 1Password 8. The best I could suggest would be to fill out our survey on self-hosting of the 1Password service, if that would be a potential solution for your organization. These responses are reviewed by dteare directly.

https://survey.1password.com/self-host/

Done. Thanks 1P_Ben

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