In the current beta it is not possible to move the settings window. And it is not possible to bring the main window to front. 1Password Version: 8.6.0 Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: macOS 12.2.1 Referrer: forum-search:https://1password.community/search?Search=Picture

You might have noticed as well that the preferences ‚window‘ doesn’t even have an ordinary window frame with stop lights top left. It uses an out of place X as close button. The reason is that the whole user interface is built using web technologies instead of a native user interface toolkit. Overly simplified one could say it‘s just a kind of local website. When the tests of 1PW8 started there were lots of complaints here in the forum and on other sites. AgileBits made it quite clear that they could better adapt 1PW8 to macOS but don’t want to spend the needed development resources.

Yes, I noticed that and wondered. Is it the same technology like the ugly TIDAL app is using? This seems to be also a webpage in a window. A cheap solution.

Probably, many cross platform applications nowadays use a technology called electron. It's basically the browser engine of chrome.

The settings view is a modal that we are displaying within the main window, not a separate window. We did in the past work with multi-window setups, but we found that did not work well. We found that the modal strategy reduced confusion and also solved some state management bugs that were otherwise quite tricky.

@Savanni preferences on macOS use windows in almost all cases and not modals. Furthermore modals on macOS don't use any window decorations especially not a Windows like 'X' top right. In the rare case that an application has only a couple of preferences a modal is used like in "Softwareupdate". 1Password before version 8 respected these basic macOS UI principles.

Mac-Beta-8: Why is it not possible to move the settings-window?

16 Replies

1P_PeterG
Community Manager
4 years ago
Glad you're enjoying it, bwadm viswiz! 🙌
bwadm
Dedicated Contributor
4 years ago
Thanks for BETA 80700041! 😃👌
1P_Ben
1Password Team
4 years ago
🎉

Ben
bwadm
Dedicated Contributor
4 years ago
Red dot to close the settings window in the upper left: great! 😃👍
viswiz
Super Contributor
4 years ago
1P_Rob ❤️ crossing my fingers that this change will make it into the stable version
1P_Rob
1Password Team
4 years ago
I thought y'all might like to see this if you're not already on the nightly channel. 😎

Credit goes to 1P_Mitch; I just saw it and smiled. ❤️
Former Member
4 years ago
This is entirely because of Electron. AgileBits has completely abandoned native app development with 1Password 8 and has gone all-in on using Electron - which basically allows developers to create glorified web apps. Now, AgileBits will insist that their implementation is different, that they are using Rust for the backend which makes all the difference, while at the exact same time ignoring the plethora of UI issues and regressions that Electron has introduced. In other words, no matter how good or efficient the Rust backend may be, we're stuck with a POS Electron app for the foreseeable future.
dgbeecher
Dedicated Contributor
4 years ago
I wish at least that the X button to close the settings window were in the upper left -- ie, where the close button is found in every other Mac app I'm familiar with.
viswiz
Super Contributor
4 years ago
volts yes, I know and it‘s not limited to preference pances😉 Even some of Apple‘s macOS Apps are webview based. But at least they respect the most basic UI concepts…
Former Member
4 years ago
All is well. I was just expressing my opinion and trying to give constructive criticism.