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On the PSST! feature:
Yes, I’ve used that. Works nice.

You state:
…we typically recommend making a copy of the Emergency Kit as a first option, because this approach provides an extra security benefit: it means that there's a way for your designated person to get access to your account, without leaving an unencrypted copy of your data on a disk (or on paper) in the meantime, where it might be obtained by an adversary…



I think you are overemphasizing this “adversary” thing. Who is this “adversary” who is going to sneak or break into my house, look around in all my drawers and bookshelves, bypassing my computers, TVs, cash, etc. and run out the door with my hardcopy password vault contents? This just doesn’t happen outside of movies or with secret agents, which the vast majority of us are not. I can’t imagine that a printed copy of some or all vault entries safely stored away in a home is any kind of security risk. Passwords and banking info is lost by phishing, not be people stealing paper out of houses and offices.

You state:
There is a way to do this: you can export to a .CSV file, and print that as you would any normal text file. That is currently a part of 1Password 8.

Perhaps, but the formatting of a CSV file leaves a lot to be desired compared to the nice easy-to-read formatting of the vault contents as we used to be able to print. Not everything is passwords; many store lots of important other information in our vaults that would be a challenge to visually extract in a CSV formatted file.

You state:
This is essentially what the current export functionality does, but again we consider unencrypted export a less-desirable option than others - although we do provide it.

Again, your CSV export is a crummy format and less than useful except for importing elsewhere.

So if you allow us to use CSV export and print, turning our vaults into paper, which you argue (weakly) is a security risk, how is that different from just printing nicely formatted and readable vault entries as we could do in version 7 and earlier? Again, you took away a pretty useful feature for security reasons that are questionable for anyone not in the CIA, because you think people shouldn’t print their vault entries, but you then allow them to export and print their vault entries. Huh?

It seems that anyone who has chosen to purchase/subscribe to 1Password would already have the sense to take proper care with paper copies of their vault entries.

You state:
With that said, we also want to help you do the things you need to do without 1Password getting in your way.


Failed on that one. Not being able to get hardcopy in a readable form is getting in my way.

Thanks for the great response, Peter. I do appreciate your time and thoroughness. This is why we have Beta versions. :-) Hopefully the developers will come to their senses and realize that you don’t take a useful feature away without a corresponding strong benefit. I don’t think that benefit has been demonstrated here.