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4 years ago

Required to enter OpenGPG keyphrase when unlocking 1Password for the first time after fresh boot

When I open 1Password for the first time after booting, I am asked to unlock my 1Password vault and immediately after I am asked to key in my OpenGPG passphrase to get access to the '1Password for Linux' wallet.

Why does 1Password need to create its own wallet in kwallet and encrypt it with Blowfish or GPG?
OpenGPG is the option I chose. My keys are passphrase protected.
Selecting Blowfish and leaving username and password blank during wallet creation would not make a difference either as only the wallet named kdewallet gets unlocked by PAM on user login.

Also, why does 1Password need to change the default wallet in KDE to '1Password for Linux'?
Because of changing the default wallet, other apps such as Brave browser, that also wants access to the default wallet, suddenly also ask me to key in my OpenGPG passphrase.

Isn't it possible for 1Password to store the proof of the 2FA token in the already existing kdewallet?
The default kdewallet gets unlocked by PAM when I logon to my desktop.

1Password 8.1.3
1Password Plugin 2.1.3


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    Happy new year!

    We merged this change right before I went on break, so you should see it fixed in the beta that we release this week.

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    Happy new year @Savanni!
    Any news?

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    Is there a workaround in the meantime where I could automatically unlock the "1Password for Linux" wallet using a secret that I store in "kdewallet"? I haven't played around with kwallet enough to have a good sense of the supported features.

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    We have not been able to take the time to fix this yet. I'll see if I can bump it in our priority list since it may be easy.

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    Any news @Savanni?

    I have since uninstalled 1Password and am now only using the browser plugin as having to unlock that '1Password for Linux' wallet is super annoying.

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    I think I have the same issue, on Ubuntu 21.04. This was not an issue until I enabled the fingerprint reader to be able to log on using bio metric data.

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    Hi, folks. This is going to take some investigation.

    Having talked with the security team, it seems that this may be something we did during development and then never revisited. I'm actually surprised it took so long for anyone to run into trouble with this feature, though.

    I'm unable to reproduce the problem where the 1Password for Linux wallet becomes the default one, so I cannot explain that. However, this problem will go away if we're able to switch back to kdewallet. I'll file an issue and see if we can make the change soon.

    @wolfpants Unlocking using the system auth service should not actually unlock 1Password automatically when you log in, especially since we do not auto-launch 1Password. Instead, it would allow you to unlock 1Password with your system account password or with biometric unlocking. I actually don't use this feature on machines that lack biometrics. But we use the keyring for storing two-factor authentication so that you don't have to enter your security code every time you unlock 1Password.

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    I have the same issues/questions, using Kubuntu out of the box (1. Starting 1Password requires typing 2 passwords, one for 1Password, and another to unlock the "1Password for Linux" KDE Wallet; 2. Setting up 1Password causes the "1Password for Linux" wallet to become the default KDE Wallet).

    Of note, I haven't enabled the "Unlock using System Authentication Service" option, since I'd prefer for there to be an extra step to unlock 1Password (e.g. if I'm letting somebody else use the computer), similar to how it works in the macOS/Windows/iOS versions of 1Password. I'm not sure if enabling this option would resolve the KDE Wallet issues, but #2 above seems like a bug, and #1 is not great UX. I'd love to hear if this is something the team is looking into, since it feels like it would affect anyone on KDE with 2fac enabled in 1password.

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With 1Password for Windows, I removed the session lock so that I don't have to keep entering my password when I close an RDP session or if the machine goes to lock screen.

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Can password or PIN security be reduced in a similar way on iOS so that I don't have to enter my password or PIN every time I request a password from a website or app?

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Also is there a way of associating 1Password logins with a selected application? Usually when requesting a password from an application, it just takes you to the very top of the login list and you have to either scroll down or search to find the correct login. It would be much more efficient if logins could be associated with applications so that a login appears at the top of the list when 1Password is invoked from an associated application.

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Can password or PIN security be reduced in a similar way on iOS so that I don't have to enter my password or PIN every time I request a password from a website or app?

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Also is there a way of associating 1Password logins with a selected application? Usually when requesting a password from an application, it just takes you to the very top of the login list and you have to either scroll down or search to find the correct login. It would be much more efficient if logins could be associated with applications so that a login appears at the top of the list when 1Password is invoked from an associated application.

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Matty279

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Not beyond the Associated Domains feature that already exists, no. That is the only context Password AutoFill shares that identifies the source app.

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Ben

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1P_Ben

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I wonder whether it might be possible to add a feature to 1Password for iOS to allow for associating logins with specific applications.

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I'm afraid it is possible that the app in question does not have an Associated Domain, and if that is the case then no automatic matching will be possible. This would be something the app developer would need to improve. If you'd like to reach out to them, it may be helpful to share this documentation:

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Supporting Associated Domains | Apple Developer Documentation

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Ben

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1P_Dave

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I can see the Create Login button but there is no URL beneath it. If I click on the button, I can see a list of common logins with associated URL’s but there is no login for the application that is not matching. I sometimes logon to the web interface for that application using the URL that I have saved against the login so I know it’s correct. However, it does not match to the iOS application. Is there some other way that I can determine the URL that Password Autofill requires to match the application?

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Hello Matty279! 👋

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The best way to avoid having to enter your account password repeatedly when using 1Password on iOS is to enable Touch ID / Face ID. When you enable biometric unlock you can unlock 1Password and fill/save your logins by just using your fingerprint or face instead of having to type in your account password. Here are some guides that will show you how to enable Touch ID / Face ID:

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Also is there a way of associating 1Password logins with a selected application? Usually when requesting a password from an application, it just takes you to the very top of the login list and you have to either scroll down or search to find the correct login.

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On iOS it's not 1Password filling your passwords into Safari and other apps but an Apple technology called iOS Password AutoFill. When app developers publish their app in Apple's App Store they're asked to also include an associated domain with their app and Password AutoFill uses this to match the app to your login item for that app inside of 1Password by looking for the same website URL.

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When you try to fill a login into an app and you don't see the correct Login item being suggested from 1Password then do you see a button labeled Create login? If you do then underneath the button should be a website URL, this is the associated domain for that app. Take that website URL and add it to your Login item in 1Password. Going forward the Login item will be suggested when you sign-in to that app.

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Let me know if that helps. :)

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