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Secret Key and iOS

I'm trying to understand how the secret key fits in to iOS. When I add 1Password to a an iOS device, it doesn't seem to need the secret key. I haven't stored the secret key anywhere on the device t...
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Hi Dave. Thanks for your response. Based on the recent WSJ articles about iPhone vulnerabilities when stolen if the thief has observed your passcode, I have deleted all my Keychain passwords and now only use 1Password. I'm assuming that the Secret Key is still in the Keychain but not visible. If I turn off Keychain synchronization with iCloud does that go away? It seems to me that in the scenario of a stolen iPhone with stolen iPhone passcode, the fact that the Secret Key is stored in the Keychain would reduce that layer of protection but I guess that is an acceptable and pretty much inevitable risk, given that the thief would still need the 1Password password to access the app. As a separate but related issue, I do think that storing visible passwords in the Apple Keychain creates an unacceptable risk since it would mean that passwords could all be accessed with a 4 digit PIN. Obviously given this situation, it would be a really bad idea to store the 1Password password in the Apple Keychain on an iPhone. Thanks.

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I'm trying to understand how the secret key fits in to iOS. When I add 1Password to a an iOS device, it doesn't seem to need the secret key. I haven't stored the secret key anywhere on the device to my knowledge. How does the secret key fit in and what's to keep someone from using 1Password on their device to hack into my account by hacking just my 1Password password and bypassing the secret key? I know this is probably a basic question and I'm probably missing something fundamental in terms of how the pieces work together. Thank you.

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I'm trying to understand how the secret key fits in to iOS. When I add 1Password to a an iOS device, it doesn't seem to need the secret key. I haven't stored the secret key anywhere on the device to my knowledge. How does the secret key fit in and what's to keep someone from using 1Password on their device to hack into my account by hacking just my 1Password password and bypassing the secret key? I know this is probably a basic question and I'm probably missing something fundamental in terms of how the pieces work together. Thank you.

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Hi Dave. Thanks for your response. Based on the recent WSJ articles about iPhone vulnerabilities when stolen if the thief has observed your passcode, I have deleted all my Keychain passwords and now only use 1Password. I'm assuming that the Secret Key is still in the Keychain but not visible. If I turn off Keychain synchronization with iCloud does that go away? It seems to me that in the scenario of a stolen iPhone with stolen iPhone passcode, the fact that the Secret Key is stored in the Keychain would reduce that layer of protection but I guess that is an acceptable and pretty much inevitable risk, given that the thief would still need the 1Password password to access the app. As a separate but related issue, I do think that storing visible passwords in the Apple Keychain creates an unacceptable risk since it would mean that passwords could all be accessed with a 4 digit PIN. Obviously given this situation, it would be a really bad idea to store the 1Password password in the Apple Keychain on an iPhone. Thanks.

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Hi Dave. Thanks for your response. Based on the recent WSJ articles about iPhone vulnerabilities when stolen if the thief has observed your passcode, I have deleted all my Keychain passwords and now only use 1Password. I'm assuming that the Secret Key is still in the Keychain but not visible. If I turn off Keychain synchronization with iCloud does that go away? It seems to me that in the scenario of a stolen iPhone with stolen iPhone passcode, the fact that the Secret Key is stored in the Keychain would reduce that layer of protection but I guess that is an acceptable and pretty much inevitable risk, given that the thief would still need the 1Password password to access the app. As a separate but related issue, I do think that storing visible passwords in the Apple Keychain creates an unacceptable risk since it would mean that passwords could all be accessed with a 4 digit PIN. Obviously given this situation, it would be a really bad idea to store the 1Password password in the Apple Keychain on an iPhone. Thanks.

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