Too Complicated

Sounds good Kevin! We'll keep a light on for you.

Hi Jack, things seem to have improved slightly but that may be because I am not trying to use it so much!!! I will monitor the situation and post again if issues continue. Thanks

Hi kevan_Dalby:

Are you still running into trouble with 1Password 8? Let me know if you are, and I'll be happy to dig in further with you!

Jack

I retired last summer. I still have plenty of reasons to continue using and supporting 1Password, but I think 1Password has moved pretty far in the direction of supporting the enterprise. At the same time, Apple has been improving its iCloud Keychain tools for passwords (now including 2FA support) such that iCloud Keychain and the built in Notes application for random info (including secure notes) will be able to replace 1Password for people who are students or post-career.

This is not meant to disparage 1Password at all. Dave and his company made a decision to go after enterprise, and that drives complexity. That's where the cash is. If they saw or see in the future a way to either create a 1Password Lite product for less, or install a button in 1Password that toggles features (even if price is the same), they may appeal more to folks like us.

If I pull out my crystal ball, I have to say that I think passwords will soon be going the way of the dodo. Already my most recent employer moved almost everyone to passwordless authentication, and I see many other places going the same way. It's true that those without a cellphone or equivalent equipment won't be served by this (and I deeply appreciate the economic justice arguments), but for a large swath of the population, in several years's time, passwords will be replaced by a biometric measurement (stored in a Secure Enclave so your fingerprint or whatever is not transmitted away from you) coupled with tokens tied to something you have.

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this but I have had nothing but problems since upgrading to 1PW 8 for Mac. Auto fill does not seem to work anymore, I am unable to tell if the correct version is being used on the Safari browser ( I dont see the little compass icon shown on the App Store ) and auto password suggestions also does not seem to work. This upgrade has been a big mistake on my part as far as I can see. How do I go back to the previous working version????? Or should I just cancel the subscription and go elsewhere??

lerbi

Thank you for the update, I'm happy to hear that you've decided to stick with us. Are there any issues or complications in particular, that weren't addressed earlier in this thread, that are causing you grief at the moment? I'd love to be able to help if I can or to report those issues to our developers so that we can make 1Password even better.

We're working hard on 1Password 8 for Mac and we think that we've made something amazing. 1Password 8 will feature a complete redesign that is easier and more intuitive to use. More importantly, the design will be shared across devices so that you see the same 1Password regardless of whether you're using your Mac or your iPhone. Keep an eye on our social media pages for exciting announcements ahead.

I look forward to hearing from you. 😊

So, as the OP of this thread, I thought I'd provide an update. Nothing has changed. I've tried a couple of other well regarded password managers and, at least for me, they are even worse than what 1Password has become. Does anything more need to be said when you realize that, as of this date, 1Password 8 hasn't even been released for the Mac yet we thousands of Mac users are what brought success to 1Password to begin with? Talk about forgetting who brought you to the dance! My thoughts haven't changed, the app has become far too complicated and is just overkill for what I suspect are the great majority of 1Password users. Hey 1`Password, we don't need all the bells and whistles. Stop it. I'm soooo frustrated with this app, yet can't find another viable alternative.

clarino:

Can you be clearer about how I should store a gym locker combination?

Jack was referring to creating a new item as a Password item (File > New Item > Password).

It sounds like you're saying it should be a password.

That's correct, that was the suggestion. For what it's worth, I also do the same with this type of codes.

I've tried storing it as a password in a Login and a Password. Either way, 1P just calls it a Terrible password

You might find https://1password.community/discussion/comment/621255#Comment_621255, together with my colleague Ben's suggestion, useful to get rid of that warning :+1:

What's the correct way to store a gym locker combo?

For clarification, there isn't a correct way. The only correct way is the one that works best for you. For some people that will be a secure note, for others a password item, and I also know people who use Login items without a username for this type of information :) A Membership item could also be an option, now that I think about it:

Following up to Jack Platten who wrote "... the Passwords category might be better thought of as the PINs category. Your gym locker combination doesn't have a login, but you'd like to store your locker combination in a secure field,"

Can you be clearer about how I should store a gym locker combination? It sounds like you're saying it should be a password. I've tried storing it as a password in a Login and a Password. Either way, 1P just calls it a Terrible password. What's the correct way to store a gym locker combo? Be explicit.

lerbi Check out Minimalist Password Manager (https://minimalistpassword.com), it may be exactly what you are looking for.