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XIII
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5 years ago

How do collections work?

Congratulations on releasing the Early Access version of 1Password 8 for macOS!

Even on macOS 1Password is now using Google's Electron framework (like the Windows version)... :cry:

Thank you Dave for mentioning Collections.

Works great for filtering in Watchtower! But how do I use them for filtering log in suggestions in a browser?

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  • gussic's avatar
    gussic
    Super Contributor

    roustem I was replying to @MrRooni 's point - I have replied to your post in that thread. You can see the majority of my post actually concentrated on the categories issue.

  • gussic's avatar
    gussic
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    @MrRooni The new extension is a massive fail, and to be frank, your team should be embarrassed by how many more resources it requires - >245mb just for the extension alone. Compare that with <20 mb for the old extension.

    As for categories, I used them all the time to quickly switch between categories from the sidebar in 1P7 the drop down list is much slower to use, and requires more clicks and is just jarring. Why was using them as a filter seen as a good idea? They worked fantastically the way they were, seems like the definition of trying to fix something that wasn't broken...

  • Former Member's avatar
    Former Member

    gussic If we were to bundle an extension it would be the one that's currently shipping in the Mac App Store. However, web extensions can only be deployed to the Mac App Store, so we wouldn't have been able to put it in the version that ships from our website. This left us with only the choice of deploying it separately.

    In terms of using Electron, it's the packaging that we're using today, but we do have our eyes on some others we might switch to in the future. Nothing to announce today, though.

    Regarding categories, we moved them to a filter at the top of the item list. Can you let me know how this fits into your use cases?

  • gussic's avatar
    gussic
    Super Contributor

    @MrRooni
    Thanks for reply.

    You said the extension will no longer be bundled - any thought to walking this decision back some? I appreciate it probably simplifies development or allows you to slightly more modular in your approach, but its basically forcing an extension on everyone that is far heavier and more resource intensive than it needs to be?

    As for the electron framework issue, the performance of the App (not the extension, the performance of the extension is pretty bad atm) is very good, but it is a real shame you had to use a Google framework - if there are any alternative solutions out there that you could investigate and implement instead, I am sure a lot of people would appreciate it.

    --

    A usability question (to anyone) - The new App doesn't seem to show Categories in the sidebar by default anymore, is there anyway to bring this back (I found it quite convenient to switch between logins, cards, etc).

  • Former Member's avatar
    Former Member

    The browser extension does not yet use Collections to filter suggestions. It's still using the concept of excluded vaults from 1Password 7. Here's how you can exclude vaults there:

  • XIII's avatar
    XIII
    Super Contributor

    I just found out myself and edited my post before seeing your answer... :blush:

    How do I use Collections in the browser, to filter suggestions?

  • Former Member's avatar
    Former Member

    Good morning XIII ! I just answered this one here: https://1password.community/discussion/comment/606531/#Comment_606531

    But I will repost for you:

    I also have some vaults that contain items I don't typically want to see. For that we created Vault Collections. You can create a new one from the user menu.

    Mine currently says "Manage" because I already have some, but for you it should say "Create". Give that a try and let me know what you think.

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Hello,

\n\n

seems like Vivaldi Snapshot has trouble unlocking with Touch ID. Regular Vivaldi has not trouble.

\n\n

There is already this thread, but wondering if anything changed related to that.

\n\n

https://1password.community/discussion/114082/support-for-vivaldi-snapshot-releases

\n\n

Long story short, is this what to expect for Vivaldi Snapshot? Anything to prevent this?

\n\n
\n\n

1Password Version: 1Password for Mac 8.6.0 80600068, on BETA channel
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\nOS Version: macOS 12.2.1

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Hello,

\n\n

seems like Vivaldi Snapshot has trouble unlocking with Touch ID. Regular Vivaldi has not trouble.

\n\n

There is already this thread, but wondering if anything changed related to that.

\n\n

https://1password.community/discussion/114082/support-for-vivaldi-snapshot-releases

\n\n

Long story short, is this what to expect for Vivaldi Snapshot? Anything to prevent this?

\n\n
\n\n

1Password Version: 1Password for Mac 8.6.0 80600068, on BETA channel
\nExtension Version: 2.3.2
\nOS Version: macOS 12.2.1

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@NSPredicate I understand - I will specifically share your comment there with our developers.

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I think it's important to emphasize that supporting Vivaldi Snapshot is not primarily about accommodating the preferences of some users; instead, it is about being able to notice potential issues between 1Password and a new Vivaldi version early, so they can get fixed before the changes hit the release channel and cause problems for all regular Vivaldi users.

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Hey dawe! That thread is actually pretty dated. From the looks of it, there was a discussion around our classic extension in Vivaldi Snapshot, and our new extension was suggested for a better experience. However, at the time, the new extension did not support Touch ID.

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There have been a number of changes since then, and our new extension can now be unlocked with Touch ID. That said, this would only apply to browsers that we officially support. So while Touch ID can be used with Vivaldi (if you have the beta version of the app), it cannot be used in Vivaldi Snapshot. Unfortunately, Vivaldi Snapshot is not officially supported by our new extension at this time.

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I would recommend using Vivaldi (https://support.1password.com/getting-started-browser/) to make the best of 1Password in the browser. In the meantime, I can leave feedback to our developers about supporting Vivaldi Snapshot. I've actually come across a few requests for this in the last week or two, so I can see that it's something that is important. Hopefully, we will be able to work on this in a future release.

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Let us know if you have any other questions!

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IDEA-I-558

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