Where do you set the default vault for new items?

Hi @attabui

We're excited to share this with you. Thank you for your interest so far, can't wait to hear your impressions.

Oh this is wonderful news! Thank you! As someone with both Family and Company accounts signed in, ensuring the correct default is set is crucial. Can't wait!

Hi folks,

Sorry for the delay and thanks for your patience. I'm sending a quick message along to let you all know you can set a default vault saving: Release notes.

This option is now available in the latest Beta and appears under Settings > General > Default Vault. If you'd like to try this out now, you can update to the Beta channel: Use 1Password beta releases

Please let us know how you're liking this feature!

Removing this option to change default vault really degraded the product. Please enable that setting. I estimate that 6 out of 10 passwords being saved in our organization ends up in private vaults and that doesn't work for us.
Cheers, Marcus

I was a bit frustrated yesterday to hit this problem, so today I'd like to elaborate a little more on how I ran into this, because I think it could lead to some possible different solutions other than to be able to specify a default vault for new items.

What I was really trying to do when I ran into this issue is have a single shared vault, shared with my wife. I've been using 1Password for quite a while, and had a personal vault (only) and personal subscription. But I wanted my wife to have equal access to that vault, including from her Windows user profile on the desktop computer that we share at home, and that didn't seem possible because 1Password installs under my own user profile, without an apparent option to install it under All Users. We definitely don't have a use case for private, unshared passwords -- a key motivation for us using a password manager is for the other person to not be in trouble if something happens to one of us. After some research, it seemed that the only way for her to have access would be for me to upgrade to a family or team plan, so I did that. When I did that, I expected that I would then just be able to grant her full access to the existing vault I've had for years. But I found that that's not the way it works. Upgrading to the family plan ended up with each of us having our own private vault, and there was no way to delete or share those. So I had to move all of the items from my personal vault to a new shared vault, then give her full access to that vault as well. Leaving us with one vault that we actually want and two vaults that will always be empty unless one of us makes the inevitable mistake of accidentally creating a new item in our private vault -- which led to me chiming in on this thread.

So that brings us to alternate ways of solving this. The first and most straightforward from my perspective would have been to just be able to install 1Password in the All Users windows profile on our shared desktop so that we could both use the single pre-existing vault I had there. I understand that that may not work for you from a licensing/sales model perspective. If not, there are still things you could do that would allow me to have what I really want without needing the default-vault-for-new-items feature. If vaults in a family or team were just vaults, without a built-in and unchangeable notion of being either personal or shared, and all vaults could be shared or deleted without restrictions by authorized administrators, I would have what is my ideal solution: a family account where there's only one vault, that I could then share with my wife, and no other vaults such as the unwanted "Personal" ones we each have now. I'm not sure why it seems to be a good idea to force people to have a personal vault they may not want, or to make an arbitrary built-in distinction between shared and personal vault, instead of just having one kind of vault that people can either share or not as they wish. I also don't understand why there needs to be a kind of vault that can't be deleted. I can understand how it would be good to have a feature where you can't delete your only remaining vault, to avoid accidental great sadness. But I don't understand why, if my wife and I want to have just one vault, and to share it, we are prevented from making that choice.

Hi @GGFamily,

Thanks for your reply and letting us know that you'd also like to see ability to set a default vault for new items.

We understand this is important to you and many other customers. We're continuing to advocate for those that would like to see this feature return and I've cast a vote on your behalf so the product team is aware of your request.

We appreciate your patience while the team looks into features like this. As always, you can keep an eye open for new updates and added features here: 1Password Releases

ref: IDEA-I-292

Please restore the ability to set a default vault for new items. There's a lot of feedback here, and it is nearly universal that taking that feature away is wrong. It feels like the developers could be listening better to what the paying customers want. The use cases here seem to me to be very well articulated and not particularly complicated -- and I'm a software product manager myself. The advocacy is to not take away the ability to create items by default in a private vault if that's what some users prefer, even though from this forum those users appear to be a very small minority. It is to give users and administrators a choice. Personally, I've gone through the effort of setting up a family/team vault only because I can't otherwise have multiple family users use it on a single computer -- I didn't even want multiple vaults in the first place, you forced them on me. As such, I intend credentials to be be shared, and it causes genuine trouble when they're not -- and right now it is VERY easy for people to unwittingly create ones that are not. Please listen, and act. At first I appreciated all of the 1Password staff who commented here, but since it hasn't translated into developer action, that's stopped being satisfying.

@JWStephenson

Hopefully, we can improve here. I'm sorry that has not happened. Thanks for letting us know this is important to you.

ref: IDEA-I-292

I too miss the default vault selection from prior versions. Maybe the best solution would be to give the user an option (in settings) to select a default vault for new items with one of those selection items being "Select at time of entry". That way those of us that share almost all of the entries can select and existing default vault, and those that don't can choose to make a vault selection at time of making the new entry.

Thoughts?

@BurnsFamily

I understand your situation. My kids (younger, do the same thing) and the older ones have now grasped the situation. I can certainly work with this while I advocate for the feature. I appreciate you sharing your use case.

@Charles_Haynes

I've also added your comments to the ongoing internal discussion. Thank you for sharing them.

ref: IDEA-I-292