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1Password 8 Windows sandbox login

With 1Password 7 I could login through a sandbox so that no keyloggers can capture the master password. Where can I find it on 1Password 8?


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With 1Password 7 I could login through a sandbox so that no keyloggers can capture the master password. Where can I find it on 1Password 8?

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With 1Password 7 I could login through a sandbox so that no keyloggers can capture the master password. Where can I find it on 1Password 8?

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Hello again DefiCzech,

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When speaking with the teams internally and based on the comments in the linked post Secure Desktop makes things a bit more secure. However, if designed correctly, it's still possible for some keyloggers to record keystrokes even on Secure Desktop on Windows. For this reason, we've implemented other security features such as the Secret Key, Windows Hello, and two-factor authentication to help protect your account.

\n\n

If you have any additional feedback to share, just let us know and we'll be happy to pass this along to the team.

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ag_mike_d but typing password without isolating will be less secure against keylogger or not? I love the whole purpose of this feature based on this explanation https://1password.community/discussion/comment/472789/#Comment_472789

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Thanks, tmakaro - I've passed your feedback along to the team.

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ref: IDEA-I-1181

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Please bring secure desktop to the stable release! However, you must allow me to make that the default (well the default when not using Windows Hello); otherwise I often forgot that it existed in 1P7.

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Hello DefiCzech,

\n\n

Thanks for your message and I'm sorry to hear of the issues you've been encountering with Secure Desktop.

\n\n

The Secure Desktop functionality has remained in our testing channels with little customer feedback or demand for this feature making it's way to Production. This, coupled with changes to the architecture in 1Password 8, the use of Single Sign-on (SSO) becoming more prevalent, and the availability of Windows Hello on modern platforms, has reduced the need for the Secure Desktop feature.

\n\n

With our rewrite and the changes in architecture between 1Password versions 7 and 8, we've continued testing this feature but it's been challenging to get this feature working up to the standards expected of 1Password. When considering the rollout of alternate ways to authenticate (SSO and Windows Hello), and the lack of community feedback, it was decided to not move forward with the Secure Desktop feature in 1Password 8 for Windows.

\n\n

We're continuing to monitor customer feedback and pass it along to our Product team. Let us know if we can be of further assistance.

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I have problem with Secure Desktop method of login. After hitting ctrl + enter I can see only black window without possibility to put any login informations.
\nI am using 1Password for Windows 8.9.10 (80910009)

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Hello again @JoshuaJMorgan, you're most welcome!

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Out of curiosity, would if be a problem if I were to use v7 at work and v8 at home? I'm specifically concerned about multiline text fields, which are a new v8 feature.

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I've recently bumped into this issue with another customer. As you've noted this is a new feature in version 8, the issue you'll run into is that text fields saved in 7, won't appear as wrapped text when viewed in version 8. When returning to version 8 at home, this can be fixed by resaving those text fields.

\n\n
\n

Aside from the lack of Secure Desktop and a few other long-standing features that disappeared in v8 (like the ability to rearrange sections/fields or to change a field's type after adding), v8 is pretty solid, so I plan to continue using v8 at home where I can use Windows Hello instead of Secure Desktop.

\n
\n\n

I'm glad to hear that you are liking 1Password 8! With regard to the other features mentioned, rearranging sections/fields and changing a field's type, we currently have feature requests open for each and I've included your details there as well.

\n\n

Have a great day!

\n\n

ref: IDEA-I-372
\nref: IDEA-I-530

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Thanks for the reply, ag_mike_d, especially for the direct link to v7.

\n\n

Out of curiosity, would if be a problem if I were to use v7 at work and v8 at home? I'm specifically concerned about multiline text fields, which are a new v8 feature.

\n\n

Aside from the lack of Secure Desktop and a few other long-standing features that disappeared in v8 (like the ability to rearrange sections/fields or to change a field's type after adding), v8 is pretty solid, so I plan to continue using v8 at home where I can use Windows Hello instead of Secure Desktop.

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Hello @JoshuaJMorgan,

\n\n

Thanks for your feedback and providing the details about your organization's limitation of the use of Windows Hello. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this causes, but we are not able to offer an ETA on the Secure Desktop feature in Production builds of 1Password 8. Please keep an eye out for updates here in our release notes.

\n\n

I've included the your details in our internal issue letting the team know this something your interested in seeing make a return to the 1Password 8 Production build.

\n\n

If you'd prefer to not use the Beta or Nightly channels of 1Password 8 and would like to revert to 1Password 7, I've included a direct link there for you. I'd recommend ensuring you have a copy of your Emergency Kit with your account password recorded on it, then you can uninstall 1Password 8 for Windows, before reinstalling version 7.

\n\n

We appreciate your patience while the teams continues testing and working on this feature.

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ref: dev/core/core#11570

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Secure Desktop unlock has been available in the beta releases since January, but it is August 2022 and there still isn't Secure Desktop unlock in the Production release of v8. I do NOT want to use a beta version of software that I've been paying for since v4 just to restore a feature that has been core functionality for years. I use 1Password at work and my organization doesn't allow Windows Hello, and ever since switching to v8, I now have to enter my extremely long unlock password in an unsecure/key-logger-vulnerable window rather than the Windows Secure Desktop that was such an important feature in v7.

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These other threads are requesting the same feature to be restored:

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https://1password.community/discussion/125244/secure-desktop-logon-missing
\nhttps://1password.community/discussion/125204/1password-8-secure-unlock

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At the very least, please give us an ETA for when Secure Desktop is going to be restored in v8, because I may need to revert to v7 in the meantime.

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