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2 years ago1Password Access after Death, Legacy Contacts
I am not planning to die anytime soon, but sometimes things happen.
Beyond securing my 1Password details in an Escrow account, or with a lawyer, or in a bank lockbox, does 1Password offer any means of allowing one or more designated member of the 1Password Families account to access the 1Password account in case of the primary owner's passing?
Apple now offers the ability to add one or more https://support.apple.com/en-us/102631 so that in case of your untimely demise, an Access Key and a Death Certificate allows Apple to grant the holder of both of these to get a new Apple ID that has access to your Apple ID Account.
It may be something 1Password wants to consider, though I realize that reviewing Death Certificates may not be on the high list of priorities for the team!
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130 Replies
- DjerossNew Contributor
I have to add, I see many people suggesting a long delay of inactivity for the access to be granted.
I personally don't think it is a good solution, as many credentials are needed quite immediately in case of death, or at least in the following month or so.
We need to be able to fully customize this delay, and setting it as short as we want.
As long as we receive alerts that an access has been requested, using any means possible (emails, push notifications on all apps, etc...), it would be ok to have a short delay. - 1P_Tommy
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I can't make any promises but I can say that we recently saw some interesting movement on a long requested feature. It (the other feature request) is not ready just yet but should be in the next month or so. I hope we'll see movement on the legacy access feature as well. Thanks for being such engaging members of the community.
- dragon1Dedicated Contributor
Pleonasm Thanks for the details. Didn‘t know about Apple not including the Keychain. But maybe something will come up with Passwords.app
Overall it really is time, that 1Password will do some updates concerning this topic. We need something like Bitwarden is offering here.
- manofwordsNew Contributor
I agree this is a sticking point and it’s getting quite annoying that the most trusted and realiable and functional password manager in the industry doesn’t have anything of that nature.
Even an n-of-m scheme with the emergency kit would already be an improvement. Or a social recovery of sorts. But really a timed delay access granting feature would be the best. With an email alert to family organizers 24 hours before granting access to really verify the inactivity is a result of incapacitation.
- PleonasmDedicated Contributor
- dragon1Dedicated Contributor
I'm getting more and more pressure from the family concerning this point.
Overall they all like the concept of PW managers and their features. But exactly this is a point where I'm getting more and more under pressure and do not have answers for it as 1PW doesn't have any option here.
Other providers (Bitwarden, Apple and others) have solutions. But 1PW does not.
Hope to see some update coming up in near future as it really is a big point!
- manofwordsNew Contributor
Having skimmed through the white paper I don’t understand what is the problem with implementing the following scheme:
Assigning an inactivity period to a vault and a next of kin assignee who is part of the team/family.
Example of work flow:
1) Alice creates a family and shares with Bob their every day activities in a shared Vault
2) Either Alice or Bob invite their executor and lawyer Lawrence to their family. Perhaps even as a guest.
3) Lawrence signs up and creates his own profile along with secret key and account password
4) Lawrence is initially not given access to any vaults.
5) Alice assigns Lawrence as the next of kin on the “Shared” vault she and Bon share.
6) Alice chooses an inactivity period on that vault of 180 days. Thinking even a prolonged hospital visit of her’s where Bob is still alive and functioning and caring for her needs shouldn’t have him out of his 1Password daily activities for more than 180 days.… after 180 days of inactivity
7) 1Password service does the same thing it would normally do to share the vault with Lawrence. The vault key is encrypted with Lawrence’s public key and he is granted access to the items in it.Why is such a scheme so hard to implement? There is definitely no lack of interest and need for this feature.
EDIT: mildly infuriating is that this scheme is available today with a business account (for the event logs feature) and a kiddy script using 1Password CLI running on any cloud server or a few of them as the action itself is idempotent.
- GSKOccasional Contributor
That's exactly what I did Djeross. Eventually, I just moved to BW
- DjerossNew Contributor
I may add, this has been requested for many many many many many... years now.
It's really disappointing and hard to believe that nothing has been done to definitely solve this matter.
I'm even considering to pay for a premium bitwarden account, just to store credentials for my 1P account and take advantage of their "Trusted emergency contacts".
Or maybe I should just pay this premium account to... use it instead of 1P completely ?
Let's see what happens in the next months. - GSKOccasional Contributor
Yes... Completely agree with Djeross. As morbid as it may sound, I have moved everything over to Bitwarden mostly for this reason.