1Password Mini Not Copying Shown Password

Hi @Kirkvan:

Thanks for your feedback on that, I'll make sure to share it with the team.

Jack

In addition to my feature requests above, I would also like to suggest that the "Copy Username" and "Copy Password" shortcuts in grey text at the bottom of the Quick Access window be clickable. And am I missing the options to "Reveal" and/or "Show In Large Type" options in the QuickAccess window?

Many thanks!

Hi @Kirkvan:

Thanks for sharing. While I can't promise anything, as Dan mentioned, we're continuing to think through how / when / where we can improve things.

Jack

Use case for Password Generator: As a Mac consultant, I often send clients sensitive information in the form of a password protected .pdf. This is a one-off thing and I call them with the password to open the .pdf. I don’t ever need to know the password again, so saving it to 1Password would only clutter my vault.

Hey @kirkvan, can you share a bit more about your use cases for wanting the password generator to be so prevalant without wanting to save those passwords as items in 1Password? For most folks we've talked to, if they generate a new password it's because they want that saved as an item to use later. I'd like to better understand the use cases so we can think through how/why/where we can improve things here with all of the relevant information.

... It seems like all keyboard shortcuts which bring up the Quick Access window should behave in the same way, no?

The big difference here is that Command+\ has always autofilled a Login without showing any UI at all if you only have one login for the current site, where the other shortcut is to show the UI in order to search for things for all sorts of purposes. Command+\ only shows the UI if it isn't sure which item to fill to help you find which one you wanted. That's the reasoning behind the two shortcuts with different behavior. Having autofill inside of apps as well as web browsers has definitely changed expectations here for some folks though as previously, because there was no autofill in apps, it would feel like Command+\ was the same as the other shortcut whenever you weren't in a browser (previous "show UI" shortcut was Shift+Command+\ in 1Password 7).

Regarding "lock on quit" ... if you had a setting like that turned on, and you activate the shortcut for Quick Access which requires you to unlock, would you then expect it to be locked every time you activate Quick Access again? Even if it's within a minute or two? With the menu bar icon running, the app is never really "quit" as John mentioned, so a lot of people think of "quit" as different things. And things like that are the big gotchas with "lock on quit" as a feature. It's been confusing for a lot of folks and in the past has ended up frustrating more than it's helped in my experience. But we are definitely keeping track of feedback like this and considering it!

@johnmarstall - Thanks for pointing that out. Disabling "Keep 1Password in the menu bar" definitely works to lock 1Password upon quit, but then the keyboard shortcuts don't work. Definitely not what we're looking for!

I suppose one could change the default "Lock on screensaver, sleep, or switching users" from the 10 minute default down to 1 minute, but that's a kludge. Plus, the auto-lock leaves 1Password in a state where it is asking for the master password, not Touch ID. Unlocking with Touch ID requires an extra click (on the little fingerprint icon), so it defeats the convenience of Touch ID.

This seems to be a big change (and security risk, IMHO) from previous versions of 1Password, where quitting the app locked everything down nice and tight. I'm not a fan of the current behavior.

OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST FOR 1Password 8: Give users (back) the option to lock 1Password on quit. And make it the default.

Many thanks,

Kirk out

@Kirkvan You can enforce "lock on quit" behavior by toggling off "Keep 1Password in the menu bar" under Settings > General. If it's active in the menu bar, then 1Password is not really quit. There might be a way to clarify this better in the app.

And an additional observation of some inconsistent keyboard shortcut behavior:

If you use Command - Shift - Spacebar, you get the QuickAccess window. Pressing that key combination a second time makes the Quick Access window close. This is good.

I'm in the habit of using Command \ (from back in the 1Password Mini days - like yesterday!), so I configured the "Fill in Browser" keyboard shortcut to use Command . Pressing Command \ brings up the Quick Access window, but pressing that combination a second time doesn't close the Quick Access window.

It seems like all keyboard shortcuts which bring up the Quick Access window should behave in the same way, no?

Thanks,

Kirk out

Oh yeah, and one more thing...

I'd like to see the "suggested password" 1Password presents in a browser when changing a password reflect the preference for password "type". For example, some users prefer "Memorable Passwords" (a number of words, separated by periods), and it would be good if 1Password suggested those, vs. "Smart Password" or "Random Password".

Also, while I appreciate the options in the "Memorable Password" generator to "Capitalize" and "Use Full Words", I'd like to see two additional options: a) Add a random digit and b) Add a special character (both of which are required by many sites these days).

Thanks!

Kirk out

Hi @danvpeterson,

I'm appreciating this conversation and the opportunty(ies) to make 1Password even 'gooder' ;^). I've been a Mac consultant for the past 35 years and have installed 1Password for countless clients. Making it simpler, easier to use and cleaner is definitely my goal as well.

I think simplifying is sometimes a good thing. In the case of taking a bunch of functionality out of a feature rich interface such as 1Password Mini, I'm not so sure. I'm definitely missing the Password Generator up there, one click away in my Mac's menu bar. Going to the browser extension for the Password Generator is, to me, about as un-intuitive as it gets. Here are two hands high up, waving radically for my vote to add the Password Generator (back) to the Quick Access window in the menu bar. I would also like to see the Password Generator somewhere easy to find in the app too. I'd also like to see an option to filter the Quick Access view into my favorites or 'all items' as well.

As for lock on quit, I definitely* think that's a security risk. If I quit an app which is a vault containing all of my mission critical passwords and personal information, I _absolutely**_ expect that data to be locked and to be asked for my master password (or TouchID) to open/view that app again the next time it gets launched. Imagine leaving your laptop somewhere, you forget to sleep or lock the screen and someone launches 1Password, giving them access to ALL of your logins, etc. That seems like what we call a "bad thing", no?

Thanks again for this conversation and your open attitude towards listening to your users (and in my case, someone who helps support your users!)

Kirk out