1Password v8 is a Mistake

roustem Fair enough, and congratulations again on your success. Best of luck in your future endeavors.

@claus I think you are onto something here when you said:

I did not install it because v8 still in alpha. I just have to read some comments. I do not need to touch the hotplate just to learn that it is hot! If someone tells me not to touch the plate, then I don't touch it. I do not like the whole development we see now, so why should I give it a chance.

I think there are many people in the same boat. We'll need to find a way to show how the app is better without asking you to download it in the first place.

"I feel betrayed"... Jesus, the drama.

roustem there's a lot of people trying it and posting the issues that every electron app has, you guys just ignore those posts and don't respond (or respond with a canned, but it's so much faster in this little scenario that you have to exactly follow, see here!).

Electron is a bad choice for mac users. You know this, otherwise you all wouldn't be trying so hard to downplay (or even hide at the beginning) that it was built using electron.

I'm also so glad that you are quick to ruin the mac user's experience in order to open up that lucrative linux market. After all, "this is the year of desktop linux."

@ibuys You are right, we started as a Mac shop. The iPhone didn't even exist at the time. I still have the very first PowerBook purchased at the Yorkdale mall in Toronto. Our first blog was even called The Switcher's Blog.

Dave and I built 1Password for ourselves but a lot of changes were driven by our users. I remember the time when I did not want to have 1Password for Windows but our customers convinced us to start working on it 😁 The 1Password for Linux request is one of the longest running threads on this forum. Today, it is hard to imagine any business (in fact, it is true for many families) that is only using a single operating system.

Over time, 1Password became pretty popular and there are tens of millions of people using 1Password today. When we introduced 1Password for Business back in 2016, it turned out that the companies need 1Password as well. We were struggling with the demand for new features and support. We had to grow the company. It turned out to be a pretty challenging task on its own and something that we didn't know how to do. This is the main reason we partnered with Accel, not the financial side. You can read more about it in the /14-years-of-growth-the-1password-story-fbbf58ebe28b">Dave's post.

Now, let's get back to 1Password for Mac. I use 1Password 8 for Mac every day since last year and there is no way I am going back to the old version. There are just too many things that we finally were able add and improve. There is still work remaining but even today it is a better app.

I think a lot of people make the judgement without even trying it. Dave described the new version in the blog post but I wonder if we should make a video and show off the new features without asking people to download the app.

roustem I've got to ask… why wasn't running a successful Mac and iOS app company enough?

I suppose I should go back and re-read the posts about taking the initial investments. Seems to me that the expansion of AgileBits and taking investment money led directly to this sub-par, non-native Mac app, which I can only assume the iOS app will follow suit. You guys had a great app and the respect of the entire community. Why toss that away? And for what? Windows and Linux compatibility?

Well, I suppose if I was literally offered a wheelbarrow full of money I might do the same thing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

For those who are hypercritical about this electron thing just try the beta, so far it's the best electron app I've ever seen. They've tried really hard to make it as native as possible in Big Sur, it's pretty, also the app eats surprisingly small amount of memory, it's fine and will be ok for the most people. The thing is that with my vault of around 1k entries it is noticeably slower to scroll or show entries, it feels sluggish and wrong. As for me this and a subscription only thing made me look around for an alternative and that's where they lost me, sorry.

telephoneman2 because we, as mac users, feel betrayed. We bought into this product and this company because they made a great native mac app. Now, they are throwing it all away for Electron. I've never used an electron app that was better than a native app. They are ALWAYS slower and have worse interactions.

Guys, why don't you let it grow? This is an early beta (call it alpha - doesn't matter- its just not ready). From feature perspective 1Password never disappointed in a long view. So this is beta for now - if you don't like it go to 7 back. If it's finished and you still don't like it, stick with 7. But "Complaining","Tickets" about explicit named missing features or ways how things work now is more helpful instead of this "general complaining". I really believe if enough people like or change things to change they do it sooner or later 😊 I have seen that since years and still trust this will not change.

You guys should go out and breathe in some fresh air. Seriously, the amount of hyperbole outrage displayed by some people here makes me think someone has killed their beloved dog. It's a password manager, not your life. Take a step back and appreciate the fact that this is an early release with loads of headroom for changes and optimizations. And as for Electron... who cares. If you guys hadn't pointed it out, I wouldn't even have noticed.

I have my own issues with this alpha version (like the fact it doesn't respect my "never lock" setting), but I expected nothing short of boat loads full of issues with an early access version.