1Password v8 is a Mistake

I just want to point out that after leaving a few respectful and constructive criticisms in response to roustem I was blocked from posting on this board by the 1Password team. I see where this is going, so I'll just leave this last attempt:

roustem

Again, I think you are in a dangerous echo chamber here. I'm not personally taking the caveman stance "Electron app bad!" but definitely understand the criticism. I actually don't care what you write it in. I just use it for password management, not rendering Pixar movies. But I still think it's important that whatever language or framework you use, it:

1. Is polished in ways your previous apps were and this one is not.
2. Feels consistent with the OS experience it is on. I know you want to standardize the look across platforms because it is easier, but there is a benefit to making it feel whole with each OS. Mac users value this experience, as you may know.
3. It is performant. We've seen reports of this thing taking up 3-5x resources as 1Password 7.

Please don't be dismissive of these things just because it makes it easier to forge forward with your roadmap. I know it sucks now, but someday you'll be able to look back and tell the story about the time you made a mistake with 1Password 8, listened to the feedback, and made the right decisions with the roadmap and product, even if it wasn't the easy decision. The same way Mark Zuckerberg talks about their misstep with web apps on mobile and the decision to go native. You can get rich and make a good app.

It was command minus to shrink the window content, also under the view me menu.

The preferences explanation makes me more sad, sadly. I just don’t buy it, sorry. We have had preferences as native windows for decades, and all of a sudden it’s a bad experience?

roustem

Again, I think you are in a dangerous echo chamber here. I'm not personally taking the caveman stance "Electron app bad!" but definitely understand the criticism. I actually don't care what you write it in. I just use it for password management, not rendering Pixar movies. But I still think it's important that whatever language or framework you use, it:

1. Is polished in ways your previous apps were and this one is not.
2. Feels consistent with the OS experience it is on. I know you want to standardize the look across platforms because it is easier, but there is a benefit to making it feel whole with each OS. Mac users value this experience, as you may know.
3. It is performant. We've seen reports of this thing taking up 3-5x resources as 1Password 7.

Please don't be dismissive of these things just because it makes it easier to forge forward with your roadmap. I know it sucks now, but someday you'll be able to look back and tell the story about the time you made a mistake with 1Password 8, listened to the feedback, and made the right decisions with the roadmap and product, even if it wasn't the easy decision. The same way Mark Zuckerberg talks about their misstep with web apps on mobile and their decision to go native.

@sriggins It actually was a separate window at some point during the development. We found that it is cleaner and easier to locate when it is a part of the main window.

I am not seeing any changes when I use ⌘+, multiple times. Is there something special about the window size or location to recreate it?

Thanks. Can you please open a ticket for preferences not being a real mac window with window controls? I am not sure why the product got this far like this. Mixing and matching native and web controls is not acceptable.

Also try command minus a bunch of times and watch the content shrink under the window controls.

roustem I'm sure the other customers love seeing you badmouth the product they love only to praise a clearly inferior version.

@shepstl It is my app and I reserve the right to say bad things about it 🤣

@sriggins The ⌘+W will be fixed. Turned out that we already have an open issue for it:

roustem

Again, I think you are in a dangerous echo chamber here. I'm not personally taking the caveman stance "Electron app bad!" but definitely understand the criticism. I actually don't care what you write it in. I just use it for password management, not rendering Pixar movies. But I still think it's important that whatever language or framework you use, it:

1. Is polished in ways your previous apps were and this one is not.
2. Feels consistent with the OS experience it is on. I know you want to standardize the look across platforms because it is easier, but there is a benefit to making it feel whole with each OS. Mac users value this experience, as you may know.
3. It is performant. We've seen reports of this thing taking up 3-5x resources as 1Password 7.

Please don't be dismissive of these things just because it makes it easier to forge forward with your roadmap. I know it sucks now, but someday you'll be able to look back and tell the story about the time you made a mistake with 1Password 8, listened to the feedback, and made the right decisions with the roadmap and product, even if it wasn't the easy decision. The same way Mark Zuckerberg talks about their misstep with web apps on mobile and t

@sriggins lol. 1Password Management: "uh oh, people are saying bad things about our horrible new app. Quick, start talking bad about the old version!"