I prefer to keep Passkeys in my iCloud Keychain because it's essentially syncing just on my iPhone & iPad, while 1Password has an archive file format, so those keys would essentially be files in the filesystem on my Windows PC.
The problem is that in iOS 17 I have to have both enabled for that. I liked the behavior back in iOS 16, where 1Password didn't declare Passkey support (because there was no API) and iOS auto-picked iCloud. Can that be added as an advanced switch to the app? Or does iOS 17 not allow password managers to declare Passkey support dynamically? (i.e. it's stuck in the manifest and can't be changed)
1Password Version: 8.10.16 Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: iOS 17.0.3 Browser: Not Provided
Sorry, Discord was a bad example; it's a second factor, as a non-resident key. The previous version of the Discord iOS app attempted to register resident single-auth-method passkeys, but this appears to be a bug as it was not possible to log in with them on any platform, and after their update, they register non-resident as a second factor everywhere.
There are several sites (e.g. github) which support resident passkeys where I use a yubikey as the sole authentication method, and the current iOS implementation of 1password makes this extremely awkward. This really feels like an oversight in the iOS app given that:
turning this feature off is documented at https://support.1password.com/save-use-passkeys/#get-help - but the article does not mention that the option does not exist on iOS.
the option to turn the feature off exists and works fine in the Windows and Mac 1password apps.
There is nothing fundamentally different about my requirements for passkeys on Windows/Mac and on iOS, and a cross-platform password manager should have consistent cross-platform behavior.
Thank you for the feedback! Just to clarify, are you using the YubiKey as the single source of authentication for Discord? Or are you using the YubiKey for two-factor authentication after entering your password?
If it's the latter then you should still be able to use the YubiKey for two-factor authentication even if 1Password is set as the provider of passkeys on your iPhone/iPad. Is this not working? What do you see when you try to use the YubiKey when signing in?
To give one example though: if I register a yubikey with discord, for example, I can then log in to Discord on a machine I don't trust enough to put a 1password installation on to. I could create a separate account with a shared vault, but that counts towards my plans' account limits, is more work, and requires storing my passwords and second factor in the same place.
In my case, I want to continue using a yubikey for some accounts, not iCloud.
It is inconsistent that this appears to be a supported option on every platform on iOS, and bluntly the responses saying to just use 1password instead are a little tone-deaf and feel like the infamous "you're holding it wrong".
Thank you for adding your suggestion. I would also be curious to hear from you about why you save passkeys in iCloud Keychain and passwords in 1Password, why not just keep everything in one place protected by 1Password's end-to-end encryption and security?
@fabiograsso If you go to settings -> passwords -> password options you can select both iCloud and 1Password as options for passwords and passkeys. This will give you the option to save passkeys to iCloud instead if you want, and it's my path forward for the time being.
Thank you for writing in. Can you tell me a little more about why you'd like to save your passkeys in iCloud Keychain and not 1Password? I would be happy to pass along your use case and request to the team as well.
Hello,
any news about this topic? I want to use passkeys on my iPhone but I don't want to save them in 1Password. The fact that I'm forced to save them in 1Password is very annoying.
Thanks again for the feedback. While I can't make any promises, I've filed a feature request on your behalf to add an option to turn off 1Password passkeys for AutoFill on iOS. Our product team will look into the request for future versions of 1Password.
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I am confused on the Two factor authentication. 1Password gave me steps to scan in a QR code to set it up but I can't even access it to use it on my phone now. I found an app for Google Authenticator, but I don't have it installed and will have to go through another mess of codes to get it installed. I went to my Google Account and it has no mention of 1Password and only mentions the Google password manager. What got set-up on my phone with the QR code? How do I find it to use it?
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I was expecting to use text message authentication in combination with password for the two factor authentication since I only access my 1password account on my PC.
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I am confused on the Two factor authentication. 1Password gave me steps to scan in a QR code to set it up but I can't even access it to use it on my phone now. I found an app for Google Authenticator, but I don't have it installed and will have to go through another mess of codes to get it installed. I went to my Google Account and it has no mention of 1Password and only mentions the Google password manager. What got set-up on my phone with the QR code? How do I find it to use it?
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I was expecting to use text message authentication in combination with password for the two factor authentication since I only access my 1password account on my PC.
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I failed to answer part of your question and that may help solve what happened. You asked if I had already logged into any of those devices. It could be possible that I was currently logged into one Windows 10 system while I turned on Two-Factor Authentication on the second one. One of them is a Host PC. The other is a VMware Workstation Windows 10 VM. The Host did not have Two-Factor Authentication active, but the guest did.
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EDIT* The Guest is where I started the process to activate it.
I thought I did a screen capture of it but can't currently find it. It was definitely asking for a 6-digit pin from my Authenticator app. Here is a screen pic of what I received in email after I was able to turn it off. \n
I have three Windows 10 operating systems and an android phone. All of them were active with 1Password when I attempted Two-Factor Authentication. Two of the Windows 10 operating systems required a pin that I couldn't provide. One didn't require a pin. I did not try to access my account on the phone. Why did the one WIN 10 operating system not require a pin?
jeffer23 Two factor authentication is an account-wide setting. If it is enabled in your 1password.com account then you will need to enter a 6 digit passcode on any new device or browser. It is a means of authorizing a new device to receive a copy of your 1Password database, so it wouldn't make sense to only require it on particular devices.
I got two factor authentication disabled. What I don't understand is that I only remember trying to setup Two Factor Authentication in one browser. But it was active on two of my operating systems. Luckily it wasn't active on one system. I guess I need to look at the options in the software better in the future.
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I tried to do too much too quick in doing this but I am racing to make sure I am happy before I get charged for the software. I think rootzero got me what I needed to understand it when I revisit at some point in the future. I'll make sure I have my data mostly stable before I do it.
rootzero covered everything I would have said (thanks for the assist! 😎). Let me know if you run into any further trouble along the way with your two-factor authentication.
jeffer23 If you lose one of your logged-in devices you can remove it from your list of authorized devices at 1password.com. You can do this whether or not two factor authentication has been enabled.
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Two factor authentication is only required the first time you login to 1Password on a new device. Once you've entered your account password, secret key and two factor authentication passcode, a copy of your 1Password database is downloaded to the device. This is encrypted with your account password and secret key. Two factor authentication doesn't play any part in the encryption. So it doesn't help to secure your 1Password data on a device where you've logged-in previously.
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Two factor authentication protects from the case where an attacker has your account password and secret key, but doesn't yet have a copy of your database. If an attacker has a device with a copy of your database then the main protection is provided by your device security and your account password.
Thanks for your reply and help. I will reread your post later today when I get opportunity to attempt a solution.
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At this moment I really only 100% want two factor authentication for my work computer (laptop). This is a laptop that I do not own. It is also used for occasional travel. If something ever occurred where I lost control of this laptop, it would be good to have peace of mind that the logon can't be done without use of my cell phone in addition to a password.
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Right now I think I am overwhelmed with the process of getting all of my data into the configuration. So I probably don't have a proper feeling for long term use of the feature. Once I get most of my passwords and data entered the process will likely be less stressful since I also do programming (on my daily job - with overtime) which combines to cause mind fatigue when adding new stuff I don't know well.
jeffer23 You must have used an authenticator app or Apple keychain to scan the QR code and generate the 6 digit passcode required to enable two factor authenticaiton. If you can't find the 6 digit passcode in an authenticator app or Apple keychain then you'll need to disable two factor authentication.
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You can disable two factor authentication from any 1Password app where you are logged-in. If you are not logged in to a 1Password app then try logging-in to 1password.com from a browser where you have logged in before. If all that fails then send an email to mailto:support@1password.com from the email address you use for 1Password explaining the problem. They will ask you some security questions and disable two factor authentication for you.
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Before enabling again, consider whether you need two factor authentication. The combination of account password and secret key already gives your 1Password account very strong protection. If you decide that you still want to enable it then choose an authenticator app that backs-up your two factor authentication secrets. I wouldn't recommend Google Authenticator because you lose your two factor authentication passcodes if you lose or factory reset your phone.
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