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I'm sorry to hear that you don't like the new approach, viswiz. I find it leaps and bounds better myself.

When it comes to updates, I think the Borg got it right. Resistance is futile.

++dave;
1Password Founder

dteare 1Password 7's updated wasn't polite by stealing the focus but at least it gave the user a short moment to abort the download and showed the release notes in advance. 1Password 8 is following the Borg's way - "resistance is futile". It updates in the background without any way to know what the update might contain and even worse without any chance to skip an update. In my opinion it's worse than stealing focus.

Those are great points. Thanks for sharing them.

1Password 7 was indeed an egregious offender of stealing window focus for updates. We made the updater in 8 much more polite as we now nudge you with an in-app notification and will automatically update when 1Password restarts. This doesn’t solve all your requirements, but it’s a step in the right direction.

@ACSpooky: I’m sorry that happened to you. It’s very annoying and I hope to do better there in the future. With that said, for an unreleased early access build of 1Password, you really need to have automatic updates enabled. Either that or stick with the official release. We only show that expired window for betas and nightly releases.

++dave;
1Password Founder

May I ask why?

I’ll give you a few of my personal reasons.

1. I want to read the release notes first, to know what known issues or limitations might be present in the update

2. I want to control when the update occurs, not have it control my work. Too many update frameworks yank the screen and focus away from me, 1Password’s being one of the most egregious offenders. Not only does it steal the screen / focus, it does so twice. Software should never do this.

3. I want to know when updates are available, so I can apply them uniformly across our systems. Auto-updates often have phased rollouts, and this means our systems will have different software versions sometimes for days or weeks.

4. Auto-updates generally have no awareness of when it is unacceptable to run. This is a larger issue than (2) above, and can be a huge problem when reboots are automatically performed, or the software terminates and restarts itself.

Auto updating is good for home users, who would otherwise never perform updates. For the rest of us, not so much. Too many times bitten by overzealous software-updaters or indifferent company practices wrt users.

Hi @ACSpooky, thank you for raising this issue. I'd like to understand how we can better help here.

the only menu option that worked was the About. No Check for Updates or link to the page to download an update.

I do apologize that your software ended up in this state. I can understand your point, as well, and have filed an issue with our developers to determine how we can make it easier to get out of that situation (update button? link to the website? something else?) if a person ends up there. Thank you for the prompt to do so.

ref: dev/core/core#14598

I don't do automatic updates. Of anything on any platform.

May I ask why? Automatic updates are considered a security best-practice for most people, unless there's a particular reason not to. If you have such a use case, we'd be happy to learn more about it (and you can email us at support@1Password.com if it involves details of your setup, to ensure your privacy).

I must say that the way you don't handle updates if someone doesn't turn on automatic updates is pretty poor. I signed up for v. 8 as soon as you made it available. I removed v. 7 from all my machines a couple of months ago and use v. 8 exclusively. Every day. Many, many, times a day. And yet no notice that there was an update available. The first indication that one existed is this message. Even though 1 Password 8 did not quit immediately, it might as well have because the only menu option that worked was the About. No Check for Updates or link to the page to download an update. ??!!

I don't do automatic updates. Of anything on any platform. Why is there no option to notify of updates like most softwares have?

Hi @hvarun87:

We recently changed the available lock options, and while 15 minutes would have stayed available for you until you changed it, it's no longer available as an option. I can definitely share your thoughts internally if you'd like to see 15 minutes make a return though.

Jack

under preferences, Security > "Lock this computer after the computer is idle for" setting, 15 mins is default.. once we change it to something else.. 15 mins doesn't show up on the list.

Does not work with Explorelearning.com login window. Clicking the inline 1password icon does not bring up login options. I do have the website info entered correctly into 1password. Running the latest nightly beta.

Hey @kebel87:

Glad to hear you like 1Password 8 so much! 😁

We're absolutely thrilled at how excited everyone is about 1Password 8 for iOS! We are planning on removing inactive testers from the TestFlight, where inactive is defined as never having installed the app from TestFlight or not having updated the app in two weeks. Keep an eye out for an open slot!

Jack