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System
5 years agoSuper Contributor
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skippingrock
5 years agoNew Contributor
Wow, I've been out of the party for too long…
I must say that I was unfamiliar with the term Electron App, but upon doing some research, all of the apps that I find that are less than the macOS experience that I have come to love over these 30 years are in fact Electron apps.
Applications like Slack, Discord, and Teams (well that's changing) drive me crazy when I use them.
They don't use Apple's built in dictionaries, spell checker, and grammar checker, so none of my spellings, text replacements carry over, they don't support the Mac's enhanced pasting options and item sharing options. These may not seem like big things but I use these features extensively even in 1Password 7. I have a very extensive dictionary of custom words and text replacements that I use everywhere. When I copy information into my 1P items, I use transformations all the time to get things sections of text to be all lowercase, title-case or uppercase. Oh and Electron apps don't support Apple's Data detectors, Dictionary lookups, searching with your chosen search engine. You think why would I need this, I use secure notes extensively, I work with multiple languages, and I'm always copying content into 1Password and reformatting it to meet my conventions. I use every single category within 1Password 7.
In the areas of accessibility, electron apps fail even more miserably. Speaking selections of text is inconsistent, if even available at all and doesn't respect my settings at all. When speaking text in Discord, I have no idea where it is getting its crappy voice it is using; Slack, I can't speak text at all.
Sharing is an item from 1P7 is so easy, just right-click select share and I can AirDrop an item to another macOS or iOS 1P7 user. So easy.
Yes, I use Slack and Discord everyday for my work and organizations but only because it is better than nothing and better than having to use them in a web browser, but the experience is not that much better than an encapsulated web viewer screen. 1Password a utility application and thus needs to have deep integration with the OS that it is on to it's full potential.
Don't get me started on the insistence that the Preferences window is part of the main display window. I've always been frustrated by that because often I'm wanting to change a preference and see the changes in the live windows and sometimes I like to keep it open depending on what I'm doing. Going back and forth within a single window is so annoying.
Anyways, it looks like you're pretty head strong fixed on this decision which I feel is a great shame. I've been using 1Password since version 2 and have always promoted the app as a first class macOS application and a Canadian one at that.
I can't see how I'd want to downgrade this experience and will be looking to remain on 1Password 7 for as long as I can. Personally 1P6 I must say was the best version ever but I eventually came over to 1P7. However, what I see for 1Password 8 is way too much of a downgrade experience for me. I'm loosing too much of the macOS experience that I expect.
Please when 1P8 is released, release the iOS version of 1P8 as a new software rather than an upgrade so that users can choose which version they want to use.
You know me from my previous posts. I've been a proud beta tester and always provided well thought out and detailed usability reports in the past. But with a move to Electron UI, I feel my ability to be a supportive feedback contributor is coming to a close. I've already paid my yearly dues… I will bide my time on 1P7 for as long as I can and hope that you can live up to your former company name of being AgileBits and pivoting on this decision to support a native macOS app in the future.
At least I still have my standalone license.
Good luck folks, looks like you're going to need it.
Sincerely, skippingrock.