Design language

1P_Ben even Microsoft and Nokia made big user research with a army of 1000 UX researchers, concept design in James Bond movies and finally shut down their mobile OS. The OS was wrongly designed with too much arrogance and over confidence. You don’t go that way. Don’t kill want is working and loved.

roustem 1P_Rob Even when I have selected a particular vault or collection in the main app, your quick access shows results from all vaults and I see all my repeated same items in the list. This is annoying. Can you fix the connection from what is the settings in the main app and what quick access behaves? Both are acting like different countries with their own rules. Plus the quick access needs a browse function. It also does not remain persistent after I select an item to view. I need to go back and view other items. How to do that? Don't copy mac spotlight search behaviour and implement it in your app. I don't like shortcuts and remembering them. I am a mouse pointer user. If the UI doesn't have a back arrow UI, then that function doesn't exist for me. Don't tell me to use the escape or back arrow button. You are a big failure on accessiblity. Don't screw mouse users.
You have killed 1p mini and implemented this quick access horribly. Please listen to feedback. I can design for you if your designers/PMs are in mental blockage.

Wow, I've been out of the party for too long…

I must say that I was unfamiliar with the term Electron App, but upon doing some research, all of the apps that I find that are less than the macOS experience that I have come to love over these 30 years are in fact Electron apps.

Applications like Slack, Discord, and Teams (well that's changing) drive me crazy when I use them.

They don't use Apple's built in dictionaries, spell checker, and grammar checker, so none of my spellings, text replacements carry over, they don't support the Mac's enhanced pasting options and item sharing options. These may not seem like big things but I use these features extensively even in 1Password 7. I have a very extensive dictionary of custom words and text replacements that I use everywhere. When I copy information into my 1P items, I use transformations all the time to get things sections of text to be all lowercase, title-case or uppercase. Oh and Electron apps don't support Apple's Data detectors, Dictionary lookups, searching with your chosen search engine. You think why would I need this, I use secure notes extensively, I work with multiple languages, and I'm always copying content into 1Password and reformatting it to meet my conventions. I use every single category within 1Password 7.

In the areas of accessibility, electron apps fail even more miserably. Speaking selections of text is inconsistent, if even available at all and doesn't respect my settings at all. When speaking text in Discord, I have no idea where it is getting its crappy voice it is using; Slack, I can't speak text at all.

Sharing is an item from 1P7 is so easy, just right-click select share and I can AirDrop an item to another macOS or iOS 1P7 user. So easy.

Yes, I use Slack and Discord everyday for my work and organizations but only because it is better than nothing and better than having to use them in a web browser, but the experience is not that much better than an encapsulated web viewer screen. 1Password a utility application and thus needs to have deep integration with the OS that it is on to it's full potential.

Don't get me started on the insistence that the Preferences window is part of the main display window. I've always been frustrated by that because often I'm wanting to change a preference and see the changes in the live windows and sometimes I like to keep it open depending on what I'm doing. Going back and forth within a single window is so annoying.

Anyways, it looks like you're pretty head strong fixed on this decision which I feel is a great shame. I've been using 1Password since version 2 and have always promoted the app as a first class macOS application and a Canadian one at that.

I can't see how I'd want to downgrade this experience and will be looking to remain on 1Password 7 for as long as I can. Personally 1P6 I must say was the best version ever but I eventually came over to 1P7. However, what I see for 1Password 8 is way too much of a downgrade experience for me. I'm loosing too much of the macOS experience that I expect.

Please when 1P8 is released, release the iOS version of 1P8 as a new software rather than an upgrade so that users can choose which version they want to use.

You know me from my previous posts. I've been a proud beta tester and always provided well thought out and detailed usability reports in the past. But with a move to Electron UI, I feel my ability to be a supportive feedback contributor is coming to a close. I've already paid my yearly dues… I will bide my time on 1P7 for as long as I can and hope that you can live up to your former company name of being AgileBits and pivoting on this decision to support a native macOS app in the future.

At least I still have my standalone license.

Good luck folks, looks like you're going to need it.
Sincerely, skippingrock.

@KirkMcPike roustem Absolutely agree - the home app is the single worst piece of UX to come out of Apple since...well, I can't remember. Maybe the ][C? Of all the examples, that's not the one to use.

It's not one specific thing that needs to be fixed, it's a constant stream of friction every time you use the app. Am I in preferences all the time? No. But the non-modal windows is annoying when I am. The close icon in the right? No, but when I go to close it, my muscle memory is to the left. And so on. It's this constant undertone that "I'm not a mac app".

And that's just sad, given Agile's long history and roots on the mac. It's like you've traded in your really cool collection of mustang's and corvettes for a yugo.

I had updated your new beta build. But quick access search still stuck on the first search. No matter what I do, it keeps the same text in the search bar.

Both Esc and x button clear the text for me. Also, if you dismiss the Quick Access, the search text will automatically reset after a few seconds. There is a timeout that is useful if you want, for example, copy username, password, and TOTP code from the same item, so that you don't have to search for it again every time.

Note that I am currently on the Nightly build 80202004, the new beta will be out this week.

The Quick Access feature is a recent addition, so there are certainly some rough edges. Remember that this is an early access, not a final product, so there will be bugs and we appreciate the reports. :)

That said, I think this particular Quick Access bug has been fixed, at least in the latest nightly release. If I've selected an item and I try to search again, I'm correctly returned to search results without needing to exit the item view manually.

austin clicking left arrow is also not working if I have opened a detail view in new window. I am surprised how 1password and Lastpass both have designed same bad experience.

sameerchavan You are correct that this is broken; if you have gone into the “details” of an item, press the left arrow to get out of it.

No, this is not intuitive, correct, or documented anywhere.

I just saw Lastpass. They also have exact same quick search and behaviour. Are you both working together? Theirs is more horrible than you.

roustem I had updated your new beta build. But quick access search still stuck on the first search. No matter what I do, it keeps the same text in the search bar. Clicking or your back arrow does not change it. I seem frozen. Is this issue with me or others too are facing? I am on Mac OS Big Sur.