Desperately need the categories section from 1Password Windows 7 Sidebar in 1Password 8

I can't find a way to rename vaults or change their icon. Either this functionality is fiendishly hidden, or it has not yet made it into the current build.

Sorry about that, @tiltowaitt. We don't have implemented yet. We also need to make it possible to change how the vault is shared.

I prefer the old search functionality, where typing in the search box filters the item list directly. This has a functional benefit, because there have been times in the past where I wanted to work on several similarly named items in a batch; the new search functionality impedes this type of workflow.

Does the ⌘+Return after you type in the search field work for you for filtering?

Interesting that you mentioned "filter". We had months of internal product debates on searching vs filtering. We wanted to make it easier to search and find the individual items and at the same time allow filtering when needed.

This is probably one of the trickiest part to do well. For example, most of the Login items have the website field with https://something.something but you probably would not want 1Password to show all of them when you type "http" in the search field. Or when you search for gmail, it would not be great if 1Password simply suggests all items that have yourname@gmail.com in the username field (I have over 700 of them):

Instead, 1Password 8 tries to show the items that might be more relevant and gives you a fallback to filtering with ⌘+Return:

roustem I think relying on search works more when you have an established vault. When you're doing vault maintenance, adding bulk items, or starting a new vault you can't rely on search. Categories is immensely helpful with the activities I listed. I think that's part of the problem why people are upset with electron. I cannot use the browser version because there is no right-click context menu to easily move/duplicate items like you can with the desktop app. And I cannot use 1Password 8 because well while the interface might look better, you've taken my workflows and made what used to feel single-pane and few clicks into multiple panes and multiple clicks. The only option I have to have a workflow like before is to have multiple vaults that are single category specific.

roustem Thank you for sharing the thought process behind this change. I can appreciate that it has some benefits, even though my personal workflow is hindered by it. I think a customizable sidebar would be a great idea. I prefer having categories front and center because they provide "automatic" sorting, whereas vaults are entirely manual. Some additional feedback:

• I can't find a way to rename vaults or change their icon. Either this functionality is fiendishly hidden, or it has not yet made it into the current build.
• I prefer the old search functionality, where typing in the search box filters the item list directly. This has a functional benefit, because there have been times in the past where I wanted to work on several similarly named items in a batch; the new search functionality impedes this type of workflow.

+1000 for adding Categories back to the sidebar. I don’t switch between vaults. Ever. I have my personal vault. And the ones I share with my children. And since I started doing that I no longer get the “Dad what’s the Netflix password?” question. But I don’t need to switch vaults to solve that problem. OTOH … quickly getting to Cresit Cards, Bank Accounts, etc is something I do all the time.

+1 for adding categories back to the side bar. I had a go at moving things to vaults, but couldn't get it to work particularly well. My 1 password workflow is pretty basic - I've never needed to use vaults and they just add an additional level of complexity and faff. A customisable sidebar would probably be the best solution.

Dropdown on top of menu is not practical. Make Tags on sidebar optional and bury Archive somewhere else. It is an archive, it shouldn't be taking space on most used window.

Maybe move All Categories dropdown menu under Vaults? Create a sub dropdown menu under Vaults and add categories there maybe?

Please add the categories, this dropdown is not good enough.

I appreciate the feedback. It certainly helps to see a different perspective on things.

I described it earlier in the forums that we wanted to avoid an overloaded/two-state sidebar like we had in 1Password 7 and this was the primary reason behind moving the Categories out.

At the moment, the vaults in the sidebar can be used for both filtering items and for organization (as drag-and-drop targets). The Categories can only be used for filtering items. It means that we can't simply swap Categories and Vaults without losing the organization option.

I personally do not use either and mainly rely on search. We had an option to hide the sidebar completely in early internal builds and I hope it would be back.

Maybe we take @KirkMcPike advice and make the sidebar completely customizable. Just like in Slack Electron app.

This talk of Vaults in the sidebar has me looking for some input, as it has me thinking maybe I'm using 1Password "wrong," or I'm overlooking something obvious, or maybe there's a way I can improve my workflow.

Although I use multiple vaults between my company account and my personal one, I rarely ever switch between them. I keep the dropdown on "All Accounts" and just search when I need something . . . except for when I use the category list to quickly jump in to find something like a Credit Card or Wireless Router. I have eight vaults total. Maybe that is the difference (i.e., maybe that is very low compared to some people who like vaults in the sidebar?)?

I'm always open to the idea that I'm just dense, and that I'm overlooking an obvious way to use 1Password (specifically Vaults) and improve my workflow.

Maybe the use case has something to do with the number of items saved in Password somebody has? I have 2200+ items in 1Password, so clicking on a Vault in the sidebar is worthless, as it takes me into a long list, and the item I want could be number 1383. Is there something I should be doing to make Vaults more useful (i.e., are people using Vaults as an organizational tool?)? I guess my point is that I'm not seeing how having something in the sidebar that just jumps me into a massive list is helpful, as opposed to having Categories there, which breaks down that list into manageable chunks. Oh, and I guess Tags break it down, too, but I rarely use them.

Thanks to anybody willing to share how you do things. I really feel like this is one of those things where I'll feel stupid for overlooking something obvious.

Disclosure triangles allow people to show or hide different things at different times.

And, of course, in a real Mac app it would be fairly easy to make the sidebar highly customizable. Electron’s bad UI conventions are severely limiting here.