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1P_MattG
1Password Team
3 years agoExperiment #3 - Nearby Items
Hi y'all!
I can't believe we are already shipping Experiment 3?! This one has a very special place in my heart. This project actually came out of a Hackday we did internally. Everyone was SOOOO ex...
Former Member
2 years agois there another term that has been resonating with you for a collective of mixed items within your 1Password? This is certainly something that now you've mentioned has got me wondering if others may have been thinking and its worth exploring.
Back when 1PW was just passwords, I would call them passwords 😅 but as capabilities expanded I switched to intentionally using phrases like “click the plus and select ‘Login’” instead of “create a new password” – but once “entered” they became an “entry” in my mind, like in a journal or logbook, each new entry was a quantum wrapper for interacting with whatever it was pointed towards.
The 1PW apps are quite clear and consistent about entries being “Items” everywhere: sheets, help texts, labels, buttons, navs, etc… but in the “real world” outside of the 1PW app an “Item” in my Apple world mind already means a physical item (like a backpack, bike, pet, computer, keys, onewheel, etc…)
And that consistency is why I love & use 1PW. It reduces cognitive load which I think is a critical aspect of making the world secure by default.
I can’t imagine y’all renaming “Items” everywhere internally. What a chore. Not just apps, but docs history & screenshots & stuff too. And potentially confuses the folks who either do not care, didn’t notice, or like/prefer “Item” and won’t like that it changed to “Entry.”
The only thing I’d experiment with internally, if I were on the 1PW engineering team, is to remove “Item” entirely and not refer to the collective as anything, instead opting to use more descriptive language or omitting labels entirely (like below the very bottom toolbar nav icons) and then only-ever falling back to “Entry” as a last resort – but still consistently – and kaboshing “Item” from the company lexicon 😅
And to be fair about it, I can see how “Entry” isn’t perfect either, because it unintentionally flips the emphasis away from ThE tHiNg back inwards towards 1Password’s own things.
(Also, my apologies for the minor thread hi-jack 😜)