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3 years ago

Export OTPs grom Mobile authenticators to 1P?

A question, which I imagine has been asked before. I come to 1Password having dozens of 2FAs saved on an authenticator app on my phone: you all know how tedious it is to go through the whole process again to recreate new ones. Is it therefore possible to simply export the secret key and import it into 1p?


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  • Hi khowe085​ ,

    Sorry for the delayed response on this one. I'll look into this and try to get you some help. Hang in there and thanks for your patience.

    Phil

    • khowe085's avatar
      khowe085
      New Contributor

      Hello Phil, 

      Any updates on this issue?

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    khowe085
    New Contributor

    *Crickets*

    Our allmighty AI overlords seem to think that this isn't supported. Can anyone from 1Password confirm?

    1Password’s GUI unlock flow uses the browser‐style WebAuthn API (navigator.credentials.get) under Win32, which RDP WebAuthn passthrough does redirect back to your host’s CTAP stack and Windows Hello PIN/biometric.

    1Password’s SSH‐agent feature, however, doesn’t use WebAuthn—it uses direct CTAP calls via Windows CNG/WinSCard on behalf of ssh.exe. RDP’s WebAuthn passthrough channel only covers the browser/WAM-style flows, not arbitrary CTAP provider calls from Win32 apps. Those fall back to the VM’s “local” USB/BLE/NFC providers—which of course don’t see your YubiKey—so you get errors like 0x52E, 0x80090035 or 0x8010002E in the host Event Log.

     

     

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    khowe085
    New Contributor

    My Current situation:

    I am using a VM which is a clone of the host machine it is running on. I'm signed in with a Microsoft account on both machines.  "Only allow Windows Hello Sign-in for Microsoft Accounts on this device" is turned on for both machines.  I am using MSTSC to remote desktop into the virtual machine, and it is forwarding WebAuthn requests to the host.  Due to this, Windows Hello is not shown in the Windows settings app and the option in 1Password to use it is disabled. I was hoping to use Passkey sign-in on the VM to make signing / push commits a little bit easier since I have a 44 character Master password on my main Family account.

    Passkey for my Test account stored in 

    • Main 1Password family account
    • Yubikey 5c
    • Windows 11 24H2 Host Machine

    Signed into 1Password Test Account

    • Windows 11 24H2 Host machine (Native App)
    • Windows 11 24H2 Host machine Web Admin(Firefox)
    • Windows 11 24H2 Virtual machine (Native App)
    • Windows 11 24H2 Virtual machine Web Admin (Firefox)

    I am signed out of my family account on my host and Virtual machines. I can lock / unlock my 1Password test account on both the host and VM using the Passkey I have stored on my host machine and the one on the yubikey. I can auto fill passwords on both host and VM using the browser extension.  

    On my host machine, I can use my SSH key to check out, sign, and push commits to my local gitea instance.  When I try to do the same thing on my VM I am prompted to authorize with my Passkey, go through the entire flow, and then says "Unable to sign in. Try again or contact support".

    I am seeing some errors in my host event viewer related to an attempt to clone a repo over SSH using the SSH key in my Test account vault

    under WebAuthN

    WebAuthN Ctap SendCommand completed.
    TransactionId: {REDACTED}
    Error: 0x8007052E. The user name or password is incorrect.
    
    
    
    Ctap GetAssertion completed.
    TransactionId: {REDACTED}
    Error: 0x52E. The user name or password is incorrect.
    
    
    
    Ctap Ble Function: CtapBleProcessCtapCommandRequestCallback Location:
    Error: 0x80090035. The device that is required by this cryptographic provider is not found on this platform.
    
    
    
    Ctap Ble provider thread completed.
    TransactionId: {REDACTED}
    Error: 0x80090035. The device that is required by this cryptographic provider is not found on this platform.
    
    
    
    Ctap Ble Function: _ProcessCtapBleMultipleDeviceRequest Location:
    Error: 0x80090035. The device that is required by this cryptographic provider is not found on this platform.
    
    
    
    Ctap Usb provider thread completed.
    TransactionId: {REDACTED}
    Error: 0x52E. The user name or password is incorrect.
    
    
    
    Ctap Nfc provider thread completed.
    TransactionId: {REDACTED}
    Error: 0x8010002E. Cannot find a smart card reader.
    
    
    
    Ctap Function: CtapSrvRpcServerSubscribeForNotifications Location: InProc
    Error: 0x32. The request is not supported.
    
    
    
    WebAuthN Ngc GetAssertion completed.
    TransactionId: {REDACTED}
    Error: 0x8009001B. Provider type does not match registered value.


    And then some Errors under Crypto-NCrypt

    Cryptographic Operation failed.
    
     Cryptographic Parameters:
         OperationType:    SIGN HASH
         Provider Name:    Microsoft Passport Key Storage Provider
         Key Name:    S-1-5-21-REDDACTED/REDACTED/FIDO_AUTHENTICATOR//REDACTED
         Key Type:    
         Algorithm Name:    
    
    Failure Information:
         Return Code:    0x8009001B
    
    
    
    Cryptographic Operation failed.
    
     Cryptographic Parameters:
         OperationType:    16
         Provider Name:    Microsoft Passport Key Storage Provider
         Key Name:    S-1-5-21-REDACTED/REDACTED/login.live.com//REDACTED
         Key Type:    
         Algorithm Name:    
     
    Failure Information:
         Return Code:    0x80090011
    
    
    
    Cryptographic Operation failed.
    
     Cryptographic Parameters:
         OperationType:    16
         Provider Name:    Microsoft Passport Key Storage Provider
         Key Name:    S-1-5-21-REDACTED/REDACTED/FIDO_AUTHENTICATOR//REDACTED
         Key Type:    
         Algorithm Name:    
     
    Failure Information:
         Return Code:    0x80090011

     

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    khowe085
    New Contributor

    On the VM I uninstalled 1Password, and then deleted the 1Password folders in AppData and AppDataRoaming. After reinstalling I was able to login to that instance of 1Password as well.

    I'm still stuck on not being able to use my SSH keys on the VM

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      1P_Phil
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      Hi khowe085​ ,

      Thanks for your patience here.  As Passage is still in beta, you have found a bug and it has been reported to the team. In the mean time, the team suggests you use a password-based process for now until the team can look into and find the root cause.

      Thanks again! Phil

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    khowe085
    New Contributor

    I was able to sign into the web admin console using the passkey on my yubikey  and 'Setup another device' to get my host machine logged back in.   Was this because I was already logged into the website with that.  I tried logging into the web admin console from a private window, and I needed to get a code again like I was setting up a new device.

    Pretty sure I'd have to use my recovery code if I didn't have access to another device signed into 1Password.  This may actually be a deal breaker for me to use this feature I was really excited about...

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    khowe085
    New Contributor

    I tried deleting a 1Password entry from the Windows credential manager on the virtual machine, with the assumption that maybe it was from my Family account.  1Password wanted me to sign in again, it accepted my Passkey and then 1Password on my host machine prompted me to transfer the key.  It gave me a code which I copy / pasted into 1Password on the VM... which then failed.  I tried multiple times with the same result. 

    I then tried to sign out of my 1Password on my host machine... and then when I went to sign in again... it asked for the code that was being displayed on another device... except there was no other device logged into the account.

    I have the Passkey on my Yubikey... why does it need another device to login?  If all devices get logged out, am I forced to use the recovery key?

    I don't see how Passkey can feasibly work  if I need another device that is logged into 1Password.  What happens if I have a fire and the only thing I have to login to 1Password with is the Yubikey I keep in a safety deposit box?  

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    khowe085
    New Contributor

    I'll also note that the initial request to authenticate comes from 1Password on the VM.  When I click 'Authorize with Passkey', Windows on the host machine prompts me to sign in with my passkey, select the yubikey, enter they yubikey PIN, and touch the key.


    In the VM I signed into the web admin console and created a passkey for the VM.  The key was created successfully and got saved to the host machine. I repeated this a second time saving another key to the Yubikey.  Both of the new Keys were unsuccessful when I tried to use them to check out the git repo.

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Can someone explain some of the nuances and caveat related to hiding an app and also requiring Face ID.

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pathfinder76

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You can already have 1Password require Face ID whenever you open it by changing your auto-lock settings and making sure that Face ID is turned on for 1Password:

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I recommend that you use the built-in auto-lock feature rather than using the iOS \"Require Face ID\" feature with 1Password since you'll be able to use Face ID to secure 1Password without losing functionality.

\n\n

-Dave

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Inaffective*

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So from what you’re saying, hide will make the 1Password app and effective, but I can use the “require Faceid“

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Hello pathfinder76! 👋

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Thanks for the questions! Reaching out to Apple Support is probably the best option when it comes to better understanding how certain iOS feature work but I can speak to how the feature can affect 1Password. I've done some testing and if you choose to hide a password manager like 1Password then Apple will prevent that password manager from showing suggestions when filling and saving logins using AutoFill in Safari and other apps.

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If you just require Face ID for 1Password then you'll be prompted for Face ID to open the 1Password app (whether opening the main app or filling into another app using AutoFill) and then you'll be prompted to unlock 1Password according to your auto-lock settings.

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The 1Password for Safari web extension won't be available when choosing either option.

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I hope that helps. 🙂

\n\n

-Dave

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Keep in mind that hiding the app and requiring Face ID or step wise processes. You can require Face ID, but not hide it, or you can do both.

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