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2 years ago

If I use a passkey aren't I making my login less secure?

I understand a lot of the benefits that passkeys offer such as domain spoofing etc but it seems to me that if I migrate to them that I am making things less secure. If I currently log in to somesi...
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2 years ago

Hi @richardwarriner, thanks for your question!

Passkeys can provide the same level of security as a password plus two-factor authentication, with a lot less friction as they are two factors of authentication built into one. Passkeys cannot be remotely phished, socially engineered, or leaked. Those are the threats that two-factor authentication was designed to protect against.

In testing, I've found that accounts have continued to support an MFA option in addition to passkey sign in. So, you can sign in with your passkey saved in 1Password then use MFA to complete the flow. If you prefer to use both, you can likely continue doing so for the foreseeable future.

While I anticipate migrating away from MFA where passkeys are available, I can personally think of a few situation where I might want to keep MFA. For example, when visiting, younger members of my family often play games on my personal computer. Perhaps not the textbook definition of a "malicious actor" but if I forget to lock 1Password, having that extra layer of protection for banking or similar websites would certainly be appreciated if someone gets curious.

Let us know if you have any questions or if there's anything we can help with!

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I understand a lot of the benefits that passkeys offer such as domain spoofing etc but it seems to me that if I migrate to them that I am making things less secure.

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If I currently log in to somesite.com, 1Password auto-fills my email and password. I then have the site set up to prompt me for a time-based token from the authenticator app on my phone.

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So I have 2 layers of security that are separated from each other. If my 1Password account was ever compromised my 2FA would still afford me some level of protection.

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With a passkey, I lose the second part of this as everything is handled by 1Password in the browser. Anyone gaining access to my 1Password account would have everything they needed.

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Or is the idea with a passkey that we should still retain traditional 2FA procedures? I haven't really seen this discussed anywhere.

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What would seem ideal is 1Password in the browser signs me in using a passkey but the 1Password app on my iPhone asks me to confirm it too, much like Google does with the Youtube app.

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Am I missing something here?

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I understand a lot of the benefits that passkeys offer such as domain spoofing etc but it seems to me that if I migrate to them that I am making things less secure.

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If I currently log in to somesite.com, 1Password auto-fills my email and password. I then have the site set up to prompt me for a time-based token from the authenticator app on my phone.

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So I have 2 layers of security that are separated from each other. If my 1Password account was ever compromised my 2FA would still afford me some level of protection.

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With a passkey, I lose the second part of this as everything is handled by 1Password in the browser. Anyone gaining access to my 1Password account would have everything they needed.

\n\n

Or is the idea with a passkey that we should still retain traditional 2FA procedures? I haven't really seen this discussed anywhere.

\n\n

What would seem ideal is 1Password in the browser signs me in using a passkey but the 1Password app on my iPhone asks me to confirm it too, much like Google does with the Youtube app.

\n\n

Am I missing something here?

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Hi @richardwarriner, thanks for your question!

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Passkeys can provide the same level of security as a password plus two-factor authentication, with a lot less friction as they are two factors of authentication built into one. Passkeys cannot be remotely phished, socially engineered, or leaked. Those are the threats that two-factor authentication was designed to protect against.

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In testing, I've found that accounts have continued to support an MFA option in addition to passkey sign in. So, you can sign in with your passkey saved in 1Password then use MFA to complete the flow. If you prefer to use both, you can likely continue doing so for the foreseeable future.

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While I anticipate migrating away from MFA where passkeys are available, I can personally think of a few situation where I might want to keep MFA. For example, when visiting, younger members of my family often play games on my personal computer. Perhaps not the textbook definition of a \"malicious actor\" but if I forget to lock 1Password, having that extra layer of protection for banking or similar websites would certainly be appreciated if someone gets curious.

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Let us know if you have any questions or if there's anything we can help with!

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Hi @richardwarriner, thanks for your question!

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Passkeys can provide the same level of security as a password plus two-factor authentication, with a lot less friction as they are two factors of authentication built into one. Passkeys cannot be remotely phished, socially engineered, or leaked. Those are the threats that two-factor authentication was designed to protect against.

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In testing, I've found that accounts have continued to support an MFA option in addition to passkey sign in. So, you can sign in with your passkey saved in 1Password then use MFA to complete the flow. If you prefer to use both, you can likely continue doing so for the foreseeable future.

\n\n

While I anticipate migrating away from MFA where passkeys are available, I can personally think of a few situation where I might want to keep MFA. For example, when visiting, younger members of my family often play games on my personal computer. Perhaps not the textbook definition of a \"malicious actor\" but if I forget to lock 1Password, having that extra layer of protection for banking or similar websites would certainly be appreciated if someone gets curious.

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Let us know if you have any questions or if there's anything we can help with!

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