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Limited use in 3rd party apps with share sheet removal

I know this has been talked about ad nauseam, but I was hoping to get some advice or clarity on the matter. As we all know, AgileBits removed the share sheet extension in 1P 7.8. For the most part...
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use in 3rd party apps with share sheet removal","id":"message:19460","entityType":"FORUM_TOPIC","eventPath":"category:discuss/community:cuxzj43862board:1password/message:19460","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":9,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:-1"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:1password"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:19460"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:19460"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" I know this has been talked about ad nauseam, but I was hoping to get some advice or clarity on the matter. \n\n As we all know, AgileBits removed the share sheet extension in 1P 7.8. For the most part...","body@stringLength":"2963","rawBody":"

I know this has been talked about ad nauseam, but I was hoping to get some advice or clarity on the matter.

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As we all know, AgileBits removed the share sheet extension in 1P 7.8. For the most part, the new Safari extension does everything the share sheet could do and more (assuming you're using a cloud vault, but that discussion has already been had multiple times). Unfortunately, the one area that the Safari extension doesn't help with is in 3rd party apps or browsers.

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As the name implies, Safari extension work only in Safari. 3rd party apps and browsers, even though they're using the same rendering engine, don't have access to the Safari extension. As such, features that were provided by the share sheet are not available in these apps. For me, the most frustrating limitation is if I need to enter credit card info in a 3rd party app. I used to rely on 1Password for that, but without the share sheet extension, 1Password is simply useless in this kind of scenario. While it is possible that in a future update to iOS, Apple will open up Safari extensions to 3rd party apps, at the moment (and in the future) we are stuck with what Apple will allow.

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Thus, my question is multifold:
\n• I know Dave Teare has written a very long post in regards to the share sheet and its removal, and I understand that he and many on the dev team rarely if ever used the share sheet. However, since its removal, it has become pretty clear that a lot of people did rely on that feature, and that the new Safari extension is not a true replacement for it when it comes to 3rd party apps. As such, has there been any talk or discussion into bringing the share sheet extension back?
\n• In the here and now, are there any workarounds that can bring back at least some of the functionality that the share sheet provided (short of switching to the 1Password app directly and copying what you need there)?
\n• Finally, and I know this is a question that is difficult if not impossible to answer, can AgileBits give any guarantees that moving forward if a major feature is going to be removed, that you will not only announce it ahead of time, but make it abundantly clear in the release notes what feature is being removed/changed? (As even after AgileBits updated the release notes with v. 7.8.1, the mention of the share sheet removal was way down in the notes and was very much not prominently displayed - i.e. unless you were looking for it, you'd most likely miss it).

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I'm fully aware that the staff on these forums will most likely be unable to directly answer any of these questions (except for maybe the workaround question), but I felt the need to ask them anyways (perhaps in the hope that a more senior member of the dev team - maybe even Dave - will take the time to read this post.)

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1Password Version: 7.9
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I know this has been talked about ad nauseam, but I was hoping to get some advice or clarity on the matter.

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As we all know, AgileBits removed the share sheet extension in 1P 7.8. For the most part, the new Safari extension does everything the share sheet could do and more (assuming you're using a cloud vault, but that discussion has already been had multiple times). Unfortunately, the one area that the Safari extension doesn't help with is in 3rd party apps or browsers.

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As the name implies, Safari extension work only in Safari. 3rd party apps and browsers, even though they're using the same rendering engine, don't have access to the Safari extension. As such, features that were provided by the share sheet are not available in these apps. For me, the most frustrating limitation is if I need to enter credit card info in a 3rd party app. I used to rely on 1Password for that, but without the share sheet extension, 1Password is simply useless in this kind of scenario. While it is possible that in a future update to iOS, Apple will open up Safari extensions to 3rd party apps, at the moment (and in the future) we are stuck with what Apple will allow.

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Thus, my question is multifold:
\n• I know Dave Teare has written a very long post in regards to the share sheet and its removal, and I understand that he and many on the dev team rarely if ever used the share sheet. However, since its removal, it has become pretty clear that a lot of people did rely on that feature, and that the new Safari extension is not a true replacement for it when it comes to 3rd party apps. As such, has there been any talk or discussion into bringing the share sheet extension back?
\n• In the here and now, are there any workarounds that can bring back at least some of the functionality that the share sheet provided (short of switching to the 1Password app directly and copying what you need there)?
\n• Finally, and I know this is a question that is difficult if not impossible to answer, can AgileBits give any guarantees that moving forward if a major feature is going to be removed, that you will not only announce it ahead of time, but make it abundantly clear in the release notes what feature is being removed/changed? (As even after AgileBits updated the release notes with v. 7.8.1, the mention of the share sheet removal was way down in the notes and was very much not prominently displayed - i.e. unless you were looking for it, you'd most likely miss it).

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I'm fully aware that the staff on these forums will most likely be unable to directly answer any of these questions (except for maybe the workaround question), but I felt the need to ask them anyways (perhaps in the hope that a more senior member of the dev team - maybe even Dave - will take the time to read this post.)

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1Password Version: 7.9
\nExtension Version: Not Provided
\nOS Version: iOS 15

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Hi @aclauss:

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Password AutoFill, the standard iOS function that 1Password can provide credentials to for iOS to fill, is available in every app. Additionally, with iOS 15, drag and drop is now available on iPhone as well as iPad: Drag and drop to fill in other apps

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Jack

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Hi @aclauss:

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Password AutoFill, the standard iOS function that 1Password can provide credentials to for iOS to fill, is available in every app. Additionally, with iOS 15, drag and drop is now available on iPhone as well as iPad: Drag and drop to fill in other apps

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Jack

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