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New Item 'quicklinks' customization

I find myself quite frustrated with the 1password app of late... Several things y'all have done have increased the toil within my workflows.... For example: When I click on 'New item' I'm...
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I find myself quite frustrated with the 1password app of late...
\nSeveral things y'all have done have increased the toil within my workflows....
\nFor example:
\nWhen I click on 'New item'
\nI'm given a constrained list of options, I cannot alter....

\n\n

Why?

\n\n

Shouldn't it be possible for the user to SELECT FOR THEMSELVES which actions to display prominently upon clicking the 'new item' button?

\n\n

In my case, only two of the half dozen actions y'all have chosen are relevant to my daily activities with 1password.

\n\n

I RARELY add credit cards.
\nI VERY INFREQUENTLY use 'secure note' or 'document' objects.
\nI HARDLY EVER use 'identities'

\n\n

It is increasingly irksome to me that EVERY SINGLE TIME I click 'New item' I am forced to move through a workflow that slows me down and alienates me as a user....

\n\n

(Without allowing the user to customize or alter them, The selection of THESE SPECIFIC 6 ELEMENTS, indicates that the \"optimal 1p customer\" SHOULD use those 6 the most frequently)

\n\n

There's MORE THAN ENOUGH SPACE to show several more....
\nHowever, for some .... really hard to find the logic in.... reason, y'all constrained the elevated items to 6.. and then hide all the rest beneath a horizontal bar with
\n\"Migrate data into 1Password\" call to action...

\n\n

\n\n

This isn't helpful... it actively causes frustration for me EVERY SINGLE TIME I create an item now.

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Admittedly.... perhaps this is an excessively strong reaction... :)

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but nevertheless, if I don't reach out, I'm not giving y'all the opportunity to address the problem.:)

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1Password Version: 8.10.58
\nExtension Version: 8.10.58.31
\nOS Version: MacOS 13.7.3
\nBrowser: Irrelevant

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Hi Dave! 
Sorry for not responding previously, I never received the notification that there was a response to this.... 

I am having a **VERY HARD TIME** finding a merit to this decision.

I could see streamlining the shown options down... however: 

Now, if you were to set them, but allow them to be customizable?  
GREAT that'd be fine!  
HOWEVER.....
inexorably setting them; and then asserting a hard
(NOT YOUR WORDS; but a caricature for dramatic effect:) 
> THESE ARE THE 6 types of objects  OUR CUSTOMERS  use most

is... really, REALLY offputting.
(I'm intentionally being a LITTLE melodramatic here, not to be antagonistic, but to illustrate the disconnected frustration I feel every time I instantiate a new credential ... as  I am reminded that I am NOT a customer demographic y'all care about. )

Is that really what y'all want to convey here? 

I don't really care about a search bar in this context. it's NOT an improvement to my 'create a new credential' workflow.  (but I don't want to downplay the improvement that the improved search represents overall ... it IS better... just not in this context)
To speak to your question, I use: 
- servers
- software licenses
- api keys
- logins
- secure notes
- passwords
more than anything else ... So yes. I only use 6 primarily ...  BUT NOT YOUR 6 
So.... I feel sad, and frustrated, EVERY...SINGLE...TIME...
I create a new credential that's NOT in that list. 

Why is this not a mutable thing?

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Hi Dave! 
Sorry for not responding previously, I never received the notification that there was a response to this.... 

I am having a **VERY HARD TIME** finding a merit to this decision.

I could see streamlining the shown options down... however: 

Now, if you were to set them, but allow them to be customizable?  
GREAT that'd be fine!  
HOWEVER.....
inexorably setting them; and then asserting a hard
(NOT YOUR WORDS; but a caricature for dramatic effect:) 
> THESE ARE THE 6 types of objects  OUR CUSTOMERS  use most

is... really, REALLY offputting.
(I'm intentionally being a LITTLE melodramatic here, not to be antagonistic, but to illustrate the disconnected frustration I feel every time I instantiate a new credential ... as  I am reminded that I am NOT a customer demographic y'all care about. )

Is that really what y'all want to convey here? 

I don't really care about a search bar in this context. it's NOT an improvement to my 'create a new credential' workflow.  (but I don't want to downplay the improvement that the improved search represents overall ... it IS better... just not in this context)
To speak to your question, I use: 
- servers
- software licenses
- api keys
- logins
- secure notes
- passwords
more than anything else ... So yes. I only use 6 primarily ...  BUT NOT YOUR 6 
So.... I feel sad, and frustrated, EVERY...SINGLE...TIME...
I create a new credential that's NOT in that list. 

Why is this not a mutable thing?

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Hello wolfspyre! šŸ‘‹

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Thank you for the feedback and I'm sorry that the new item creation process isn't optimal for you. Based on customer feedback, we’ve simplified the item creation process by displaying fewer categories when you select ā€œ+ New itemā€ in the app. This allows users to more quickly create the six most commonly used types of items.

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I do understand that this new design won't match everyone's workflow and I can certainly pass along your feedback to our product and design teams. Can you tell me which item categories you use most often?

\n\n

One suggestion: have you tried creating items by typing into the search field rather than clicking on \"Show more\"? That can help speed up the creation process since we've made improvements to search so that 1Password is smarter about suggesting the right item category.

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-Dave

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Hello ! šŸ‘‹

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Thank you for the feedback and I'm sorry that the new item creation process isn't optimal for you. Based on customer feedback, we’ve simplified the item creation process by displaying fewer categories when you select ā€œ+ New itemā€ in the app. This allows users to more quickly create the six most commonly used types of items.

\n\n

I do understand that this new design won't match everyone's workflow and I can certainly pass along your feedback to our product and design teams. Can you tell me which item categories you use most often?

\n\n

One suggestion: have you tried creating items by typing into the search field rather than clicking on \"Show more\"? That can help speed up the creation process since we've made improvements to search so that 1Password is smarter about suggesting the right item category.

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-Dave

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Hey wolfspyre​ šŸ‘‹

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I want you to know we’ve read all of this carefully, and we really do appreciate how clearly you’ve explained the impact this has on your daily workflow with 1Password.

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You’re right that the New Item list is currently static. It was designed around the most common item types across the customer base, but I completely get how that doesn’t line up with how you use 1Password day to day. When something you do often feels like it’s working against you, that builds up fast, and when there’s no way to adjust or personalize it, that frustration makes total sense.

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The feedback around space, layout, flexibility, and how the current experience comes across is all valid. This thread has been passed along to our product and design teams, with your full context included.

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I know the search bar isn’t solving the core issue here. Dave mentioned it as a possible time-saver, but I understand why it doesn’t help in the specific context you’re describing.

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Thanks again for taking the time to lay all of this out. It’s helpful, and it’s heard.

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Hi Blake!

That’s really allI can ask for. 

I am a strong advocate for 1P.

I’ve used it since at least 2007? 

My intent is to highlight an immense oversight in this design choice and the impact it causes for a non-zero cohort of 1P’s customerbase with enough gravity to hopefully compel… what I perceive to be a relatively easy UI change…
 (but wth do i know?)
…by highlighting the actual negative impact it is having… so admittedly I’m turning the volume up a tad on it to help illustrate the frustration… but it really does chap my ass every time…  

if there weren’t empty space there…
or I didn’t use this flow at least a few times a week…
It likely wouldn’t be nearly as irritating an oversight… 

but there is, and I do, and so here we are.

I do not wish to be abrasive or insulting. I have a lot of love for yall. 
AND, I see no valid reason for this not to be configurable, beyond someone else’s opinion that it doesn’t matter enough to devote dev time to it; and I’m trying to illustrate that YES, IT DOES. and to do so clearly and with enough emphasis that the experienced frustration and psychological impact this choice has is conveyed. 

I know there’s always more work to do than there are time and hands to complete it; and that’s a large portion of the struggle silently endured within successful software shops. 

I’m thankful 1password has been with me almost the entire time I’ve used macos.
I don’t wish that to end.
I do want this ui quirk to change, and so I’m trying to be a vocal advocate for introducing flexibility to accommodate the diversity of need that exists within 1P’s customerbase.

I believe you understand that, and are hearing the respect, appreciation and sincere want for 1P to CONTINUE to kick ass at being a TRUSTED keeper of sensitive information for countless organizations and individuals. 

If i come across at all as PERSONALLY hostile or dickish, I sincerely apologize… I do NOT wish to make anyone’s lives worse or hurt anyone’s feelings… we’re living in a caustic and callous enough world RN. I don’t need or want to make that worse for anyone. 

 I just want this to change :) and am trying to get the job done by illustrating the juice is worth the squeeze… :)

I sincerely hope you’re having a wonderful day. y’all deserve it!

-ā¤ļøšŸŗw

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Thank you for the feedback on how 1Password can be improved for your needs and for sticking with us for so many years! šŸ’™

\n

-Dave

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